2 or 4wd

**bry6940** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 19:34

Im looking at getting an V70 r awd because my standard T5 wheel spins everywhere. Is th awd worth it?

**5seaterT5x2** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 19:57

Originally Posted by bry6940

Im looking at getting an V70 r awd because my standard T5 wheel spins everywhere. Is th awd worth it?

dont know that much about em myself but they do seem to have issues
especially higher mileage ones.
i'm sure someone will be along in a bit who knows what they are really like

**Chad** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 20:23

get the 2wd if your going to mod it

get the 4wd if your going to leave it standard

as modding the 4wd will give you problems

**Hunter** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 20:29

Originally Posted by Chad

get the 2wd if your going to mod it

get the 4wd if your going to leave it standard

as modding the 4wd will give you problems

Sorry, mate, I have to disagree. I've been running modded 4WDs (2x Subarus, 3x Mitsubishis and my current Volvo) for over 12 years with no issues. 4WD splits the power through 4 wheels rather than 2 so you get much better traction. And you get to feel really superior when it snows and you can drive up hills when others can't

**Chad** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 20:31

which volvo you running and whats mods????

**bry6940** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 20:38

I thought i might start a debate with this one. i currently have an standard auto and when the boost comes in its all over the gaf (causing the traction control to kill all power if its on). The 2wd r has an lsd, can anyone tell me how good that is?

**Hunter** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 20:55

Originally Posted by Chad

which volvo you running and whats mods????

2004 S60R 6-sp manual. Still trying to find out what map is on it, but it's running 1.35bar (compared to standard 1.0 bar). It also has a custom exhaust, although still with the cat in as it wouldn't run error-free with the cat out. Anyone want to buy a de-cat pipe for an S60R?

**Chad** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 20:59

Originally Posted by Hunter

2004 S60R 6-sp manual. Still trying to find out what map is on it, but it's running 1.35bar (compared to standard 1.0 bar). It also has a custom exhaust, although still with the cat in as it wouldn't run error-free with the cat out. Anyone want to buy a de-cat pipe for an S60R?

yours might be different, i know 4 people that have s60R's and have had problems with the angle gears after the remaps and exhaust.

and they aint cheap to replace.

**PaulZX** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 21:53

Originally Posted by Hunter

Anyone want to buy a de-cat pipe for an S60R?

would it fit on a 1996 850 T5 ?

**Hunter** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 21:53

Originally Posted by Chad

yours might be different, i know 4 people that have s60R's and have had problems with the angle gears after the remaps and exhaust.

and they aint cheap to replace.

4WD turbo cars that cost in the region of £35k new ain't cheap to run! If I'd saved all the money I've spent running these over the years and driven a cheapo diseasel instead, I could probably buy a Lambo now ... but the years wouldn't have been as much fun!

**Hunter** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 21:56

Originally Posted by TheFlyingFridgeMover

would it fit on a 1996 850 T5 ?

Dunno, mate. Can anyone advise? 3" pipe iirc.

**Mrsmopp** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 22:06

Originally Posted by Hunter

Sorry, mate, I have to disagree. I've been running modded 4WDs (2x Subarus, 3x Mitsubishis and my current Volvo) for over 12 years with no issues. 4WD splits the power through 4 wheels rather than 2 so you get much better traction. And you get to feel really superior when it snows and you can drive up hills when others can't

If your in an S60R then your talking a whole different AWD system to the P1 V70R AWD - the original AWD system is incredibly sensitive whereas the newer stuff is a little less primitive and a little more robust.

I'd agree with Chad though there seems to be a fair few modded P2 R owners with large bills for angle gears

**Hunter** · Wednesday 21st January 2009, 22:47

Originally Posted by Mrsmopp

I'd agree with Chad though there seems to be a fair few modded P2 R owners with large bills for angle gears

Ah well, fingers crossed then

**Terminator** · Sunday 25th January 2009, 17:31

The problem with the angle gears are fluid leaks and uneven treaded tyres which cause slip. Had my angle gear fluid checked the other day and it was down to a quarter full, with no obvious signs of leaks. It has now been topped up (Thanks Russ) with the incredibly expensive Volvo angle gear fluid and thankfully no problems! It is vital that your tyres are the same make and pattern, uniform tread wear and pressures, so regular rotation from front to rear is important.

Increasing power on the 4wd V70R without ensuring these precautions have been taken is asking for trouble and probably why some owners have problems. The other issue with the P1 V70R AWDs are the auto boxes. These are tested up to 250bhp and the additional strain caused by the 4WD when the bhp has been increased can cause these to fail prematurely. An ATF change using a good quality Dexron lll on the 4 speed boxes is a must before increasing the power imo.

**Hunter** · Sunday 25th January 2009, 21:01

Originally Posted by Terminator

An ATF change using a good quality Dexron lll on the 4 speed boxes is a must before increasing the power imo.

I'd caution against using Dexron III unless it's been fully warranted as being suitable for the Volvo boxes. Reason being, Dexron III was recommended for my Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 box and although initially fine, would have resulted in a fecked box. I would recommend only using a Volvo-recommended fluid, or a suitable, fully warranted, synthetic (e.g. Amsoil).

**muscas** · Tuesday 3rd February 2009, 15:47

AWD everytime

I have had two T5's both Auto and Manual, terrific cars without a doubt

The AWD handles better, way better so allows the drives to make best use of 300BHP+

IMHO any significant power increase should be coupled with the AWD system to make full use of it.

My experience of the past 5 years of AWD ownership has been 100% reliable.

Long my it continue

**marwen** · Tuesday 3rd February 2009, 16:45

I would have to agree with Muscas especially in these wintery conditions. MY2000 V70r AWD handles the power well, corners on rails and can go anywhere. Take the advice of other members though the AWD system does need more attention and the tyre rotation and pressures are a must.

**MARKY70RRR** · Tuesday 3rd February 2009, 18:44

ive got an 98 r awd and i love it no probs from her yet

**Terminator** · Tuesday 3rd February 2009, 19:48

Originally Posted by Hunter

I'd caution against using Dexron III unless it's been fully warranted as being suitable for the Volvo boxes. Reason being, Dexron III was recommended for my Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 box and although initially fine, would have resulted in a fecked box. I would recommend only using a Volvo-recommended fluid, or a suitable, fully warranted, synthetic (e.g. Amsoil).

Volvo actually recommended Dexron ll (E) for the 4 speed auto box which has now been superceded by Dexron lll. You are right to be cautious about the correct grade of ATF as there have been some owners who used Dexron lll in the Phase 2, 5 speed steptronic box with disasterous consequences! Amsoil is without doubt a good quality but very expensive fully synthetic ATF and will be more than up to the job!

**kev smith** · Friday 13th February 2009, 19:28

Originally Posted by Terminator

Increasing power on the 4wd V70R without ensuring these precautions have been taken is asking for trouble and probably why some owners have problems. The other issue with the P1 V70R AWDs are the auto boxes. These are tested up to 250bhp and the additional strain caused by the 4WD when the bhp has been increased can cause these to fail prematurely. An ATF change using a good quality Dexron lll on the 4 speed boxes is a must before increasing the power imo.

does the above apply to the 5 speed auto box found in the late 99 awd's?