Had the M3 Detailed!
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Post 780684 by WOODY T5 on 2015-08-06 21:56:11
wow very nice mate
Post 780685 by martin_r_smith on 2015-08-06 22:03:30
Looks really nice bud.
Post 780692 by t5 pete on 2015-08-06 22:19:58
Awesome work looks great
Post 780694 by martybelfastt5 on 2015-08-06 22:25:56
truly amazing the results some detailers can achieve that looks awsome!
Post 780700 by MIKESC70T5 on 2015-08-06 22:41:33
Looks good, but I would of asked him to apply a ceramic coating before applying a wax especially on a dark coloured car. Prevents any chance of swirl marks in the future. 36 hours to do the work, is taking the pee in my opinion. He doesn't even take the wheels off. Do you know what wax he used?
Post 780702 by The Flying Moose on 2015-08-06 23:04:25
Photo's dont do it justice... well it must look immaculate in the flesh then as it looks near as damn perfect there by my crappy eyes :)
Post 780716 by Biff on 2015-08-07 07:43:06
Got to be said that is the best looking m3 I've seen in a long time. Those brakes aren't shy at all!
I'm not one for ocd cleaning but the shine looks spot on.
As for methods & the finish I think if your happy with the results & price then who cares?
I certainly wouldn't have the patience to detail for 36 hours. lol
Post 780721 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-07 08:47:07
[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;780700]Looks good, but I would of asked him to apply a ceramic coating before applying a wax especially on a dark coloured car. Prevents any chance of swirl marks in the future. 36 hours to do the work, is taking the pee in my opinion. He doesn't even take the wheels off. Do you know what wax he used?[/QUOTE]
I don't understand your point? It took him a bit longer than he said it would as the paint needed a lot of work. It's was a set price, so it didn't matter if it took 3 days or 5. But still fail to see how it's taking the piss?
The glass coating is the final step afaik. He will be maintaining the car in the future, so there will be no chance of me ruining the paint work.
I don't know what products he used, as I said above, it makes no odds to me. Whilst I do get a degree of satisfaction from spending a day cleaning the car, I do not have the knowledge or patience to get these results.
Post 780722 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-07 08:51:47
[QUOTE=Biff;780716]Got to be said that is the best looking m3 I've seen in a long time. Those brakes aren't shy at all!
I'm not one for ocd cleaning but the shine looks spot on.
As for methods & the finish I think if your happy with the results & price then who cares?
I certainly wouldn't have the patience to detail for 36 hours. lol[/QUOTE]
I could never achieve the results he has.
Despite the crazy claims manufacturers make about the ceramic coating lasting 5 or 10 years, Ben said the glass coat averagely lasts 18-24 months. So in theory every time he come round to do a maintenance detail, the car should come back to this standard. Time will tell I guess.
I'm keeping him busy though, he's got the S60 to do next week!
Post 780723 by Soulboy on 2015-08-07 08:55:50
Trouble is, I wouldn't wanna take it anywhere now, just admire it from the living room window.
Nice job :B_thumb:
Post 780724 by MaxTS on 2015-08-07 09:23:25
I really want to hate BMW M3's but this is just stunning! Good work.
Post 780726 by stribo on 2015-08-07 10:18:26
[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;780721]I don't understand your point? It took him a bit longer than he said it would as the paint needed a lot of work. It's was a set price, so it didn't matter if it took 3 days or 5. But still fail to see how it's taking the piss?
The glass coating is the final step afaik. He will be maintaining the car in the future, so there will be no chance of me ruining the paint work.
I don't know what products he used, as I said above, it makes no odds to me. Whilst I do get a degree of satisfaction from spending a day cleaning the car, I do not have the knowledge or patience to get these results.[/QUOTE]
Well, I think 36 hours to wash a car is taking the piss, it only takes the east Europeans 10 minutes to do mine. ;)
Post 780728 by kmb on 2015-08-07 10:39:02
[QUOTE=stribo;780726]Well, I think 36 hours to wash a car is taking the piss, it only takes the east Europeans 10 minutes to do mine. ;)[/QUOTE]
Looks very nice.
I know the above quote is meant in jest, but 36h in my mind is also a bit of a 'Swisswax' moment, however as long as you're happy with the results, then it's your money and choice.
Post 780738 by abdul on 2015-08-07 13:51:48
How much did it cost
Post 780756 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-07 18:13:29
[QUOTE=abdul;780738]How much did it cost[/QUOTE]
Paint correction detail was £350
Glass coating was £100
Engine bay/Interior was £50
Post 780775 by MIKESC70T5 on 2015-08-07 21:52:47
O[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;780721]I don't understand your point? It took him a bit longer than he said it would as the paint needed a lot of work. It's was a set price, so it didn't matter if it took 3 days or 5. But still fail to see how it's taking the piss?
The glass coating is the final step afaik. He will be maintaining the car in the future, so there will be no chance of me ruining the paint work.
I don't know what products he used, as I said above, it makes no odds to me. Whilst I do get a degree of satisfaction from spending a day cleaning the car, I do not have the knowledge or patience to get these results.[/QUOTE]
My point was, the work he has done wouldn't take 36 hours to do and in the list of things he says he does, it doesn't even include taking the wheels off and waxing them, that's why I think it's taking the piss. 24 hours max.
[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;780722]I could never achieve the results he has.
Despite the crazy claims manufacturers make about the ceramic coating lasting 5 or 10 years, Ben said the glass coat averagely lasts 18-24 months. So in theory every time he come round to do a maintenance detail, the car should come back to this standard. Time will tell I guess.
I'm keeping him busy though, he's got the S60 to do next week![/QUOTE]
What manufacturer says a ceramic coating lasts 5-10 years. It costs around £40 a kit and lasts upto 18 months. Your detailer could of included this in his £350 but this would of meant your next bill would of been less because he would need to do a lot less work, so not in his best interests.
Mike :Handshake
Post 780777 by foammanmark on 2015-08-07 21:56:01
I must admit that I'm jealous cos that is one absolutely stunning car and you should be a very, very proud man.
Post 780779 by MIKESC70T5 on 2015-08-07 21:57:15
[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;780756]Paint correction detail was £350
Glass coating was £100
Engine bay/Interior was £50[/QUOTE]
Glass coating £100 :yikes:
Post 780809 by M-R-P on 2015-08-08 00:24:55
I don't give a 5h1t what you paid mate, it looks awesome and you're clearly happy with it.
You can't take it with you so spend it on what makes you happy.
Post 780815 by twr on 2015-08-08 09:21:49
Tbh you have had a reasonable deal there, anybody that has done this like my self will no there is a lot of time involved in this. Getting the combo right for a start off is a job in its self. Especially on bmw paint as its one of the harder paints. Also the price of glass coating is expensive, Infact the majority of high end products are. Did he give you any tips on washing? I.e. Avoid the poles and maybe buy yourself a grit guard bucket and a wash mit etc.
you will never be able to prevent swirls 100%, and on a dark colour they always show more. The car looks stunning enjoy, and like others have said its your hard earned cash spend it how you wish.
Post 780834 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-08 14:10:06
[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;780779]Glass coating £100 :yikes:[/QUOTE]
What is your issue? If you think you know better, why don't you jack in working for the man, and go and do it for yourself? At your responses, there's clearly a lot more money in it than what you earn now.
Who gives a flying ££££ how much money it cost, it's not a concern or issue. I wanted the car done properly, and it has been. I'm very happy with the results, and despite what you think, happy with the price. I wouldn't do 3 days graft, including material costs for what he's charged. So in my eyes it's money well spent.
Amateurs, think they know it all :haha:
Post 780835 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-08 14:13:56
[QUOTE=twr;780815]Tbh you have had a reasonable deal there, anybody that has done this like my self will no there is a lot of time involved in this. Getting the combo right for a start off is a job in its self. Especially on bmw paint as its one of the harder paints. Also the price of glass coating is expensive, Infact the majority of high end products are. Did he give you any tips on washing? I.e. Avoid the poles and maybe buy yourself a grit guard bucket and a wash mit etc.
you will never be able to prevent swirls 100%, and on a dark colour they always show more. The car looks stunning enjoy, and like others have said its your hard earned cash spend it how you wish.[/QUOTE]
I never spoke to him about washing methods, as it's my intention to just get him to keep maintaining it. However I will do, as it may not always be convenient for him to clean the car when I need.
I have buckets with grit guards, and the proper mits, and understand the 2 bucket method etc... He also uses purified water, so you don't get any water spots, and also there is no need to dry the car with a towel I think he said. Maybe that something worth looking into? Or is that overkill?!
Post 780853 by twr on 2015-08-08 16:19:21
Not at all Chris, the water filters do there job, there is nothing worse than water marks on black cars.
Post 780855 by Sperm1980 on 2015-08-08 16:31:33
If Carlsberg detailed cars.............
Wish I could do this!!!!
Post 780927 by Jimmie on 2015-08-08 22:28:41
Its nice too see a detailed motor and i'll bet it looks better in the flesh.
Just as well you did not get the car done up here as it would have cost double what you paid. I therefore think you got a bargain at the price and the work involved.
Post up the pics of the S60 when done.
Post 780931 by MIKESC70T5 on 2015-08-08 22:32:04
[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;780834]What is your issue? If you think you know better, why don't you jack in working for the man, and go and do it for yourself? At your responses, there's clearly a lot more money in it than what you earn now.
Who gives a flying ££££ how much money it cost, it's not a concern or issue. I wanted the car done properly, and it has been. I'm very happy with the results, and despite what you think, happy with the price. I wouldn't do 3 days graft, including material costs for what he's charged. So in my eyes it's money well spent.
Amateurs, think they know it all :haha:[/QUOTE]
I don't have an Issue Chris. My first response was before even knowing what it cost. Yes the car looks great, but you copied and pasted what he says he does and to me that list isn't a complete detail and shouldn't take anywhere near the time he quotes.
I do it as a hobby and do the odd car for others. I've been told by various people I should take it up for a living as I'm good at it. I earn enough in what I do though thanks lol. Doing it for a living would take the fun out of it for me.
I guess knowing what a lot of these products cost to buy in, I cringe at how much some detailers mark them up at when it comes to quoting the customer, hence my surprise at the £100 for the glass coating.
As for calling me an amateur, well, that's up to you. I've been in car accessory sales for over 25 years now and dealt with many brands that are in the detailing industry and used most of them and also have a few friends who detail for a living who have taught me a lot.
Post 780949 by Biff on 2015-08-09 07:06:21
Plus he's jealous as yours is better than his. :)
Post 780950 by stephenevans99 on 2015-08-09 07:26:56
Nice job.....although I must admit, I probably would've been more thorough on the interior....I see dirt on the rubber, scuffs on the plastics and the leather needs attention ;)
That said, it's easy to pick fault when sat behind a keyboard. It's a Stunning car & I'm definitely green with envy.
Post 780953 by MIKESC70T5 on 2015-08-09 09:03:43
[QUOTE=Biff;780949]Plus he's jealous as yours is better than his. :)[/QUOTE]
There the same cars, I've gone the oem + look, Chris has gone the modified look. I'm commenting on what the detailer does isn't a full detail. I'd say the same thing if Chris had put the thread up showing any of his other lovely cars. No jealously here. :)
Post 780954 by MIKESC70T5 on 2015-08-09 09:07:43
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;780950]Nice job.....although I must admit, I probably would've been more thorough on the interior....I see dirt on the rubber, scuffs on the plastics and the leather needs attention ;)
That said, it's easy to pick fault when sat behind a keyboard. It's a Stunning car & I'm definitely green with envy.[/QUOTE]
I'm not picking fault with Chris's car, it's what the detailer says he does in the first post Chris put up that I'm picking fault with. Anyway we are going round in circles here, so no more from me on the subject. I've known Chris for many years and met him on numerous occasions and all his cars end up looking lovely, so it's his money and like he says, he's happy so :Handshake
Post 780956 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-09 09:11:28
[QUOTE=Biff;780949]Plus he's jealous as yours is better than his. :)[/QUOTE]
I know your just taking this piss, but in all fairness, it's horses for courses. They're the same car but just approached a bit differently. Mike's is modified, but far more OEM overall, which for a lot of people (possibly most) is a better direction.
Mikes car is just as well modified, maintained and looked after. It's certainly up there with the best E46's.
Post 780957 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-09 09:12:52
[QUOTE=Jimmie;780927]Its nice too see a detailed motor and i'll bet it looks better in the flesh.
Just as well you did not get the car done up here as it would have cost double what you paid. I therefore think you got a bargain at the price and the work involved.
Post up the pics of the S60 when done.[/QUOTE]
I certainly will mate. It's going to him next week while I'm on holiday, something nice to come back to!
Post 780959 by stephenevans99 on 2015-08-09 09:14:38
The most important question is: What fragrance is the complimentary air freshener? :beer:
Post 780960 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-09 09:17:14
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;780950]Nice job.....although I must admit, I probably would've been more thorough on the interior....I see dirt on the rubber, scuffs on the plastics and the leather needs attention ;)
That said, it's easy to pick fault when sat behind a keyboard. It's a Stunning car & I'm definitely green with envy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know what you mean. I just opted for a basic interior valet, ie vacuum and wipe the surfaces down. I could have had him do a full interior deep clean, maybe I will next time.
Post 780965 by volvokid on 2015-08-09 10:00:38
You know it looks good, you don't need me to tell you how great it looks :p
Post 781063 by LiamT4 on 2015-08-09 20:53:53
I understand what has been said regarding the costs of the products detailers use and the prices they charge yet i feel that, as long as they are good at what they do, its worth the money because of the time and effort they put in.
Its hard work to really get a car looking that good, i've spent 12 hours doing a car so to spend 3 days doing it.................well, i doubt i'd do it for 500.
Post 781069 by volvokid on 2015-08-09 21:11:20
When I use to do mates cars it would take me 3 days and I was charging over 200
Post 781092 by NECC on 2015-08-09 22:14:49
Looks stunning matey, I`m a carpro approved detailer for the north east area
Post 781189 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-10 18:54:47
Just put a deposit on a leguna seca blue interior!
Post 781221 by volvokid on 2015-08-10 21:06:39
Ooo yeah is that the same as mikes?
Post 781224 by AcidicDavey on 2015-08-10 21:18:54
Nice, the blue will go with the black paint nicely and I'd think the blue leather will wear better than black?
Win win!
Post 781235 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-10 21:52:20
[QUOTE=volvokid;781221]Ooo yeah is that the same as mikes?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, same as Mikes. It's a bit of a marmite colour, but I love it.
To be fair, as nice and tidy as the back interior is, either of the other interior colours are more appealing to me (apart from the grey, that's hideous!). They do some real nice options, cinnamon (kinda like David Dickinson!) is probably my favourite, but would also have Imola Red or Kiwi Yellow over the black.
Post 781236 by S70T5Chris on 2015-08-10 21:54:20
[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;781224]Nice, the blue will go with the black paint nicely and I'd think the blue leather will wear better than black?
Win win![/QUOTE]
Hopefully will look nice mate. I tried to find a picture of a carbon black with lsb interior, but couldn't. So it's certainly not a common colour combo, I think it'll work.
