Post 727915 by stribo on 2014-08-04 22:00:42
I think Sharkey's got something like this, called something like dragon blood, bloody stinks.
Post 727916 by volvokid on 2014-08-04 22:04:33
Haha good stuff that but yeah that smell will be there for a while, I've changed from that manufacturer to another now , it's thicker and doesn't run off as much and doesn't smell as bad :)
The C4 is amazing it's been on mine for over a year now and it's still as good, I tend not to use wheel cleaners now on them because it doesn't need it, plus they can shorten the life of the C4. I don't bother with my PB wax now I find it a pointless chore
Post 727919 by MIKESC70T5 on 2014-08-04 22:08:41
[QUOTE=volvokid;727916]Haha good stuff that but yeah that smell will be there for a while, I've changed from that manufacturer to another now , it's thicker and doesn't run off as much and doesn't smell as bad :)
The C4 is amazing it's been on mine for over a year now and it's still as good, I tend not to use wheel cleaners now on them because it doesn't need it, plus they can shorten the life of the C4. I don't bother with my PB wax now I find it a pointless chore[/QUOTE]
I've used the C4 a few months ago, but the wheels weren't really clean so it sealed in some small marks. The Iron X has obviously stripped the C4 off now so will reapply. Wheels certainly easier to clean without using wheel cleaners now, but I find the PoorBoys just adds some depth and extra shine and only takes 20 minutes to do all 4 wheels.
Post 727920 by MIKESC70T5 on 2014-08-04 22:10:49
[QUOTE=stribo;727915]I think Sharkey's got something like this, called something like dragon blood, bloody stinks.[/QUOTE]
Yes there's quite a few choices around, but after speaking to various obsessed detailers, Iron X came up the best value for money. Going to try it on the glass later in the week and see what comes out.
Post 727922 by volvokid on 2014-08-04 22:13:42
[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;727919]I've used the C4 a few months ago, but the wheels weren't really clean so it sealed in some small marks. The Iron X has obviously stripped the C4 off now so will reapply. Wheels certainly easier to clean without using wheel cleaners now, but I find the PoorBoys just adds some depth and extra shine and only takes 20 minutes to do all 4 wheels.[/QUOTE]
Ah I applied it straight after my refurb. Love the gtechnique products, I used the alloy one window one and plastic one. The plastic one is the only one that could benefit from getting reapplied , really good stuff. I fancy trying the paint sealents, but I want my swissvax wax more lol
Post 727923 by volvokid on 2014-08-04 22:16:00
Do you ever use tardis Mike? That along with iron x is some combo. Things are always changing in the detailing world and I'm out of touch at the moment, I will get back into it :)
Post 727924 by Nealevo on 2014-08-04 22:16:23
I use it all the time, great stuff
Post 727925 by volvokid on 2014-08-04 22:19:42
Neil you wouldn't see it working on your paint ;)
Post 727942 by MIKESC70T5 on 2014-08-04 22:58:31
[QUOTE=volvokid;727922]Ah I applied it straight after my refurb. Love the gtechnique products, I used the alloy one window one and plastic one. The plastic one is the only one that could benefit from getting reapplied , really good stuff. I fancy trying the paint sealents, but I want my swissvax wax more lol[/QUOTE]
I love the C5 plastic rejuvenator. Used it once on my plastic bonnet panel and scuttle panel and still looks like new after months.
Post 728046 by jdavis on 2014-08-05 13:27:42
I'd be happy if my wheels were as clean as the 'before' pictures
Post 728144 by LeeT5 on 2014-08-06 09:10:35
[QUOTE=stribo;727915]I think Sharkey's got something like this, called something like dragon blood, bloody stinks.[/QUOTE]
The stuff your talking about is called 'Dragon's breath' by Valet Pro. The only issue I have with Dragons breath is it's bloody expensive at £15 a litre and it cannot be diluted! Therefore, it doesn't go very far and I have two cars to keep clean.
The better stuff to use is Valet Pro's Bilberry wheel cleaner. It smells lovely and can be either used neat or diluted 1:10 which is perfect if your wheels have been recently refurbished like mine have. It also goes a VERY long way and at only £9 a litre, it's a bargain! Just spray on....leave for 5-10 minutes and jet wash off. Does the same as iron X and Dragon's breath.
Not meaning to pick holes Mike but if iron X got 'under your paint' as you say, you wouldn't have any paint left! It simply dissolves the iron particles that are stuck to the surface of the lacquer, the particles you can't see with the naked eye. That's why the liquid turns red, from a chemical reaction. Then the contaminants can be simply washed away. :wink:
Also this product is perfect to use on the brake calipers and wheel well too as well as the suspension components that are exposed to brake dust. Try it! You'll be amazed at the amount of crap that is washed away and it leaves your brakes spotlessly clean.
http://www.valetpro.co.uk/prepare/bilberry-wheel-cleaner.html
Post 728146 by volvokid on 2014-08-06 09:27:43
I have a bottle of bilberry too Lee but it's not the same as those iron remover products.
If you were to use bilberry to clean your wheels then go onto iron x after you have dried them you would still see it reacting with the contamination that bilberry can't remove.
Post 728232 by MIKESC70T5 on 2014-08-06 20:28:17
[QUOTE=LeeT5;728144]
Not meaning to pick holes Mike but if iron X got 'under your paint' as you say, you wouldn't have any paint left! It simply dissolves the iron particles that are stuck to the surface of the lacquer, the particles you can't see with the naked eye. That's why the liquid turns red, from a chemical reaction. Then the contaminants can be simply washed away. :wink:
Also this product is perfect to use on the brake calipers and wheel well too as well as the suspension components that are exposed to brake dust. Try it! You'll be amazed at the amount of crap that is washed away and it leaves your brakes spotlessly clean. [QUOTE=LeeT5]
Thanks for the tips. Sorry, I meant it gets into the paint not under it, that's how I understand it anyway going by the company's sale speak lol.
Airborne chemical compounds and ferrous particles - particles containing iron - actually penetrate the paint and create corrosive compounds that eat deep into the paint's sub-layers or paint’s pin-holes. This is a gradual process that often is not evident until it's too late. Claying or polishing only removes the particle, not its effects, which are continuing to spread beneath the surface. During the use of your vehicle, brake dust and road grime become sintered to the surface of the car paint, rims and wheels due to the high temperature conditions they are normally exposed. Brake dust contains high levels of iron and once sintered to the rim, becomes extremely difficult to dissolve or remove without the use of harsh chemicals.
CarPro - Iron X opens up the paint's pores to release ferrous particles and to neutralize caustic compounds that have developed in the paint's subsurface. Ongoing damage is immediately stopped and future damage is prevented by removing the ferrous particles.
IronX sprayed on and doing its stuff.
Rinsed off and dried nothing else.
The product.
Only downside is this product absolutely stinks lol. When I got it home I put it in the garage still sealed. The wife came home and asked what the strange smell was. Our hallway door opens onto the garage and when you open it the aroma is there lol.
I'm away for a couple of days, but when I'm back I'll apply some G-technic C4 wheel sealant then some PoorBoys wheel wax to get the wheels gleaming.
Mike