1/4 mile Championship 2014

Post 678190 by MoleT-5R on 2014-01-07 08:48:21

This my not be everyones cup of tea, so I'm just throwing it out there to see what the the interest is and remember this is meant as a bit of fun whilst we are attending a 1/4 meet and doesn't effect individual times After some fire side discussions this summer just gone I've taken the various ideas and bashed them around for a while until I'd got what thought may be a fun format for a race series and fair to all ( I believe ), obviously it is still a work in progress and I still have to check whether all four venues can run this format ( the two main ones do as another forum run a similar format for there championship ) or may be the format might be slightly different for these two meets, but at the end of the day this is just for fun whilst we're there [COLOR=#ff0000]If you don’t understand it or don’t like a bit of fun and a laugh, this may not be for you this is designed as a bit of fun it has absolutely nothing to do with the time you run, all that counts is winner[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]on the bottom of your time-slip, obviously the time counts for all other 1/4 mile tables, but here it’s win move up or lose drop down.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]1st meet will start seasons challenge table ( if you ain’t there, you’ll have to start at the bottom)[/COLOR] [U][B][COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR][/B][/U] [COLOR=#000080]Seasons meets will probably be 6 in total, spread about to make it fair (ish) to all consisting of :- 3x avon,1x york, 1x north weald, 1x pod (dates to be announced)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]1st season will be difficult as all probabilities won’t have come to light until end of season, this is meant as a bit of racing fun, anything can happen staging and leaving stage, so the underdog has more than a fair chance, whatever vehicle there in (as long as it is a volvo ( or powered by volvo might by allowed))[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]1st meet challenge names drawn from claymore’s hat ( the only one that I can normally guarantee to have one), late arrivals ( if you ain’t there, you’ll have to start at the bottom)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]For the first races of the season entrants will have to be drawn by lots, unless the idea is bettered[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]2 or 3 runs need to be done to get an bracket time ( don’t sandbag as if you breakout of your bracket by more than 0.250sec a penalty could occur)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]Then for instance, say 12 cars are present at the first meet of the season, the names then are drawn, car1 races car 2 the winner goes to 1st place loser to 6th and this is repeated through the other 5 races in a similar manner filling the top and bottom places, once 6 races are run and the start point will have now been sorted by the luck of the draw, so as to speak and the challenge begins[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]you then are free to challenge the person above you if you wish but you don’t have to, but if you’re challenged by the person below you, you must take the challenge or forefit your place to the challenger, hopefully we could then get 2 or 3 challenge runs into a meet[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]New Competitor :- people can join during the season, but will start in last place and work there way up race by race[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]holiday break :- one missed event the holiday break can be used were attendance points only will be added to your results total[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]knackered car :- car could be changed during the season once in the event of breakdown, but must be replaced with a Volvo or Volvo powered vehicle[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]Attendance points to be added to results board for all attended race meets [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]Handicapping :- possibly doing 3 timed runs to get average (bracket time) and then using that time to delay your or your competitors start by the amount of the difference between you to make it all on the finish line (and there may then be a penalty for breaking out of bracket time to stop competitors sandbagging average timed runs)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]Results and Finishing place points :- points then go into the table ( if 12 cars run first place will get 12 points and last place 1 + attendance points) and this will set the order for the next meet and competition will continue as before (2 or 3 sighting runs and then competitive drags) [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000080]Prizes :- the glory plus whatever we come up with (probably a FrankieT5 2014 bent forged conrod mounted on a plinth) [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]Please don't shoot me it's just an idea for those that wishing to play and I'm open to useful suggestions[/COLOR]

Post 678193 by jamesy12345 on 2014-01-07 08:54:50

I'm unlikely to make all the events but sounds good to me, IN. Love the idea of a broken part being used as a trophy - I can donate a melted spark plug, a knackered spark plug cover screw or an injector with the end missing :S edit: o o o please sir here are the rules for (h)andicapping http://www.nhra.net/basics/handicap.html edit edit: here is the aforementioned screw, on the end of a stud extractor [ATTACH=CONFIG]23443[/ATTACH]

Post 678195 by MoleT-5R on 2014-01-07 08:57:33

[QUOTE=jamesy12345;678193]I'm unlikely to make all the events but sounds good to me, IN. Love the idea of a broken part being used as a trophy - I can donate a melted spark plug, a knackered spark plug cover screw or an injector with the end missing :S[/QUOTE] may be the prize should be the most novel part broken during the season, mounted on a nice wooden plinth

Post 678196 by jamesy12345 on 2014-01-07 09:00:23

[QUOTE=MoleT5-R;678195]may be the prize should be the most novel part broken during the season, mounted on a nice wooden plinth[/QUOTE] my entry is above! Hopefully the end of the injector won't make a reappearance jammed in the turbo..............!

Post 678197 by MoleT-5R on 2014-01-07 09:08:31

[QUOTE=jamesy12345;678196]my entry is above! Hopefully the end of the injector won't make a reappearance jammed in the turbo..............![/QUOTE] well we have two, then let racing commence....lol

Post 678200 by p fandango on 2014-01-07 09:24:28

[QUOTE=MoleT5-R;678195]may be the prize should be the most novel part broken during the season, mounted on a nice wooden plinth[/QUOTE] going by last year their'll be a few gearboxes that can be used as trophy's lol

Post 678205 by WOODY T5 on 2014-01-07 09:56:41

Got to give u all a chance this year then:D

Post 678215 by Nealevo on 2014-01-07 11:00:29

I had this made for a trophy.

Post 678217 by V70 Graham on 2014-01-07 11:04:37

Is that last years remains ?

Post 678218 by Nealevo on 2014-01-07 11:10:42

[QUOTE=V70 Graham;678217]Is that last years remains ?[/QUOTE] yes mate.....Doh

Post 678229 by T5frankie on 2014-01-07 12:40:33

I like most of the idea but not bracket racing

Post 678235 by Jamest5r on 2014-01-07 13:02:18

[QUOTE=T5frankie;678229]I like most of the idea but not bracket racing[/QUOTE] That's what I said as well

Post 678236 by T5frankie on 2014-01-07 13:04:11

[QUOTE=Jamest5r;678235]That's what I said as well[/QUOTE] Great minds, who wants to start at different times? Lol

Post 678241 by stribo on 2014-01-07 13:15:41

[QUOTE=T5frankie;678236]Great minds, who wants to start at different times? Lol[/QUOTE] You start while the light's still red anyway. ;)

Post 678242 by T5frankie on 2014-01-07 13:20:47

[QUOTE=stribo;678241]You start while the light's still red anyway. ;)[/QUOTE] Lol too much pressure

Post 678249 by smithy on 2014-01-07 13:46:45

I don't like bracket racing but everything else sounds good

Post 678259 by p fandango on 2014-01-07 14:21:42

bracket racing gives a fair chance to everyone so money/mods are irrelevant

Post 678266 by graemewelch on 2014-01-07 14:52:35

sounds like its all getting a bit complicated to me. its just a bit fun a few times a year. turn up and try and get your do to do its fastest time. i know 100% i wont turn up to 6 races next year. most of them are the other end of the country to me.

Post 678271 by smithy on 2014-01-07 15:17:52

I'm going to try and do atleast 10 this year

Post 678276 by V70 Graham on 2014-01-07 15:23:03

[QUOTE=smithy;678271]I'm going to try and do atleast 10 this year[/QUOTE] 10.0 seconds.....good luck with that mate !

Post 678277 by smithy on 2014-01-07 15:29:11

[QUOTE=V70 Graham;678276]10.0 seconds.....good luck with that mate ![/QUOTE] Yes that 0 to 60 mate and I'm going to try a beat 15,5 sec on the quater

Post 678300 by t5 pete on 2014-01-07 16:53:57

[QUOTE=smithy;678271]I'm going to try and do atleast 10 this year[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=V70 Graham;678276]10.0 seconds.....good luck with that mate ![/QUOTE] Ide be happy if smith just manages to get the car to any

Post 678304 by smithy on 2014-01-07 17:17:30

[QUOTE=t5 pete;678300]Ide be happy if smith just manages to get the car to any[/QUOTE] It's getting there now mate got the fuel lines and pick them up Saturday

Post 678306 by claymore on 2014-01-07 17:34:04

[QUOTE=V70 Graham;678276]10.0 seconds.....good luck with that mate ![/QUOTE] I might just be able to creep in there ;)

Post 678308 by smithy on 2014-01-07 17:46:00

I will be 10 secs behind everyone else lol

Post 678318 by stribo on 2014-01-07 18:05:14

[QUOTE=smithy;678277]Yes that 0 to 60 mate and I'm going to try a beat 15,5 sec on the quater[/QUOTE] Even Graham's managed that. ;)

Post 678325 by V70 Graham on 2014-01-07 18:19:30

[QUOTE=stribo;678318]Even Graham's managed that. ;)[/QUOTE] Just lol

Post 678331 by smithy on 2014-01-07 18:29:50

[QUOTE=stribo;678318]Even Graham's managed that. ;)[/QUOTE] Yes but I'm not graham I carnt drive for ££££

Post 678357 by stribo on 2014-01-07 19:55:07

[QUOTE=smithy;678331]Yes but I'm not graham I carnt drive for ££££[/QUOTE] Neither can he, that's why he's a bus driver. :hilarious

Post 678367 by smithy on 2014-01-07 20:11:21

[QUOTE=stribo;678357]Neither can he, that's why he's a bus driver. :hilarious[/QUOTE] And that is why I am a truck driver too lol

Post 678375 by T5frankie on 2014-01-07 20:24:26

smithy wont even beat his old time of 13.9 in his 940

Post 678397 by smithy on 2014-01-07 20:52:24

[QUOTE=T5frankie;678375]smithy wont even beat his old time of 13.9 in his 940[/QUOTE] That must be a miss print mate more like 16.9 lol.the clocks must of been wrong

Post 678402 by JUDGENINJA on 2014-01-07 21:00:24

Happy to participate....but some else will need to work out the scores as you lost me half way through...

Post 678407 by T5frankie on 2014-01-07 21:14:53

[QUOTE=smithy;678397]That must be a miss print mate more like 16.9 lol.the clocks must of been wrong[/QUOTE] yeah cos i have a video of my saffy beating you if you wanna see it? lol

Post 678412 by smithy on 2014-01-07 21:29:18

[QUOTE=T5frankie;678407]yeah cos i have a video of my saffy beating you if you wanna see it? lol[/QUOTE] If it makes you happy lol my car has always been slow so I can only go up the ratings .

Post 678454 by MoleT-5R on 2014-01-08 00:01:19

Thanks for all the feed back and chatter on this subject, I'll try and answer all your relevant posts and a few others, did know that a few would be against bracket racing but we don't have to do it that way, I just saw it as being fair to all (but possibly a right headache for me) but just straight head to head is fine, just want to get more Volvo head to head action going [QUOTE=Nealevo;678215]I had this made for a trophy. [/QUOTE] that's the sort of thing I was thinking of, but a bent FORGED Frankie rod would be even better....lol [QUOTE=T5frankie;678236]Great minds, who wants to start at different times? Lol[/QUOTE] honestly thought you would like hunting us down a nipping the win and it would teach you patience young man [QUOTE=stribo;678241]You start while the light's still red anyway. ;)[/QUOTE] probably the same in bed, jump start and come first.....lol [QUOTE=p fandango;678259]bracket racing gives a fair chance to everyone so money/mods are irrelevant[/QUOTE] thats what I thought, would be an interesting experience watching your competitor leave and then focusing on the lights, then the chase to the line or the other way around, leaving first and going like stink in the hope you don't get pipped to the post and the specy's would get some close racing instead of runaway wins [QUOTE=graemewelch;678266]sounds like its all getting a bit complicated to me. its just a bit fun a few times a year. turn up and try and get your do to do its fastest time. i know 100% i wont turn up to 6 races next year. most of them are the other end of the country to me.[/QUOTE] did you read the first paragraph, there would still be normal running as well, this is just an extra bit of fun for those who want to and changes nothing else, so if you want to turn up and run as normal that is up to you [QUOTE=smithy;678271]I'm going to try and do atleast 10 this year[/QUOTE] if we're starting a book on this I'm going to bet that you make it to 5 [QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;678402]Happy to participate....but some else will need to work out the scores as you lost me half way through...[/QUOTE] not a problem, scoring will be as simple as I am, so pretty simple....lol

Post 678462 by Wobbly Dave on 2014-01-08 00:53:33

Love the trophy - just wondering if we are going to set some regulations about entries or is that too serious?

Post 678465 by JUDGENINJA on 2014-01-08 01:32:00

Is there going to be a penalty points punishment if you challenge above your station and lose?? I'll probably be in negative figures. I reckon qtr time plus reaction time stands. Give those with balls to go early a chance against those who have a quicker car. Also it doesn't require two cars to line up side by side necessarily. You could set the challenge before joining the queue. The challenger has to run first. Then the challenged person runs second in an attempt to hold onto the crown. The above could even work with racers running at different strips, but slightly harder to administrate because you'd always just choose the best run of the day. ..... Or only challenge one car per day versus your fastest time like a game of top trumps??

Post 678521 by MoleT-5R on 2014-01-08 10:42:07

[QUOTE=Wobbly Dave;678462]Love the trophy - just wondering if we are going to set some regulations about entries or is that too serious?[/QUOTE] yep, your right that would be far to serious, but may be just the one, you have to have a complete working car..that will rule out at least 4 people I know at present.....lol

Post 678523 by MoleT-5R on 2014-01-08 10:45:17

[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;678465]Is there going to be a penalty points punishment if you challenge above your station and lose?? I'll probably be in negative figures. I reckon qtr time plus reaction time stands. Give those with balls to go early a chance against those who have a quicker car. Also it doesn't require two cars to line up side by side necessarily. You could set the challenge before joining the queue. The challenger has to run first. Then the challenged person runs second in an attempt to hold onto the crown. The above could even work with racers running at different strips, but slightly harder to administrate because you'd always just choose the best run of the day. ..... Or only challenge one car per day versus your fastest time like a game of top trumps??[/QUOTE] penalty points would have only come into play if we were bracket racing and someone breaks out of their dial in time, so unlikely to happen

Post 678527 by jamesy12345 on 2014-01-08 11:01:02

[QUOTE=MoleT5-R;678523]penalty points would have only come into play if we were bracket racing and someone breaks out of their dial in time, so unlikely to happen[/QUOTE] this is awful complicated! In the words of Graham Hill: "the thing is, old boy, I'm not going to do any of that. I'm just going to get in and then go as fast as I can" :D

Post 678529 by MoleT-5R on 2014-01-08 11:12:46

[QUOTE=jamesy12345;678527]this is awful complicated! In the words of Graham Hill: "the thing is, old boy, I'm not going to do any of that. I'm just going to get in and then go as fast as I can" :D[/QUOTE] it isn't complicated at all cause brackets won't happen cause its not fair on the boys with the power....they have no patience to wait on the line, it will be head to head at the same time and just rely on a better start than your competitor, if your down on power [B]as I said earlier you can do what the hell you like, this is an extra for those that want to and effects nothing else [/B]

Post 678532 by jamesy12345 on 2014-01-08 11:29:10

[QUOTE=MoleT5-R;678529]it isn't complicated at all cause brackets won't happen cause its not fair on the boys with the power....they have no patience to wait on the line, it will be head to head at the same time and just rely on a better start than your competitor, if your down on power [B]as I said earlier you can do what the hell you like, this is an extra for those that want to and effects nothing else [/B][/QUOTE] I'm a supporter of a league btw, it was a good idea. Why make new/preferential rules tho - the NHRA link I posted has them already made for example. Probably one of the venues has something we can use too. We should either run as before ignoring reaction time or go the whole way with dial-in times and all that.

Post 678535 by T5frankie on 2014-01-08 11:47:14

Post 678538 by smithy on 2014-01-08 12:03:11

[QUOTE=T5frankie;678535][QUOTE=MoleT5-R;678529]it isn't complicated at all cause brackets won't happen cause its not fair on the boys with the power....they have no patience to wait on the line, it will be head to head at the same time and just rely on a better start than your competitor, if your down on power [B]as I said earlier you can do what the hell you like, this is an extra for those that want to and effects nothing else [/B][/QUOTEbracket racing is for people who can't be arsed improving their car to be competitive[/QUOTE] Bracket racing is the only way I will win any races .i will have to start 6 secs before anybody else to try and win lol

Post 678572 by V70 Graham on 2014-01-08 13:21:44

[QUOTE=T5frankie;678535] Bracket racing is the only way I will win any races .i will have to start 6 secs before anybody else to try and win lol[/QUOTE] You and me both mate.

Post 678573 by V70 Graham on 2014-01-08 13:22:55

[QUOTE=smithy;678538] Bracket racing is the only way I will win any races .i will have to start 6 secs before anybody else to try and win lol[/QUOTE] You and me both mate.

Post 678764 by MoleT-5R on 2014-01-09 00:34:36

[QUOTE=smithy;678538][QUOTE=T5frankie;678535] Bracket racing is the only way I will win any races .i will have to start 6 secs before anybody else to try and win lol[/QUOTE] I need to leave six seconds before you...lol