brake upgrade calipers

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Post 666909 by mzafeer76 on 2013-12-07 14:40:18

Hi Guys,can anyone advise me on which 4 pot brake calipers are good enough to fit under 17's Volans comfortably without the need of spacers? Thanks Imran

Post 666914 by oblark on 2013-12-07 15:18:12

You cant fit four pot brembos under volans.

Post 666918 by Redbrick on 2013-12-07 15:25:27

AP Racing http://kalmar-union.com/parts/volvo-850_s70_v70_c70-brakes/

Post 666920 by oblark on 2013-12-07 15:36:17

If you are running 17" titans, comets or volans then you are running the biggest brakes you can under those wheels. If you running 17" pegs or copy pegs then you can run 320mm discs with renault clio 4 pot brembos. Or if you can run 336mm discs with renault clio 4 pot brembos under 18" pegs or copy pegs.

Post 666923 by Redbrick on 2013-12-07 15:59:11

[QUOTE=oblark;666920]If you are running 17" titans, comets or volans then you are running the biggest brakes you can under those wheels. [/QUOTE] Not true. AP's fit behind Titans & Volans without spacers. Not sure about Comets.

Post 666925 by oblark on 2013-12-07 16:05:23

I thought this thread was about a brake upgrade :doh:

Post 666932 by mzafeer76 on 2013-12-07 16:21:32

Cheere guys yep do know that brembo calipers wont fit under volans was going to get a wilwood kit from the states but once i tried to measure up the volan with the template i knew a 330 kit is impossible.anyway whatever happened to that WMS Kits that were suppose to be made??

Post 666933 by Redbrick on 2013-12-07 16:24:35

[QUOTE=oblark;666925]I thought this thread was about a brake upgrade :doh:[/QUOTE] :confused:

Post 666936 by S70T5Chris on 2013-12-07 16:27:33

[QUOTE=Redbrick;666923]Not true. AP's fit behind Titans & Volans without spacers. Not sure about Comets.[/QUOTE] IIRC, Elliot ran the Stoptech kit on his R behind Volans without spacers too. Pricey though!!

Post 666938 by S70T5Chris on 2013-12-07 16:30:27

[QUOTE=Redbrick;666933]:confused:[/QUOTE] :stupid:

Post 666960 by mzafeer76 on 2013-12-07 16:48:53

Yeh there was a thread started by big dave t5 about affordable 4 pot brake kits which had alot of interest the guy had various kits that he was prepared to make,but that was a year ago dont know if any of the members went through with the orders of the Kits.

Post 666974 by oblark on 2013-12-07 17:05:08

[QUOTE=mzafeer76;666932]Cheere guys yep do know that brembo calipers wont fit under volans was going to get a wilwood kit from the states but once i tried to measure up the volan with the template i knew a 330 kit is impossible.anyway [COLOR="#FF0000"]whatever happened to that WMS Kits [/COLOR]that were suppose to be made??[/QUOTE] They used wierd and wonderful sizes of brake discs which could only be brought from them and cost a small fortune.

Post 667010 by mzafeer76 on 2013-12-07 18:44:37

I did see their size n prices weird how great the interest was and now they seem to be forgotten..talking about prices stoptech n AP are a fortune.

Post 667025 by S70T5Chris on 2013-12-07 19:13:00

You get what you pay for, as the old saying goes!

Post 667038 by oblark on 2013-12-07 20:12:09

I stand corrected, I`ve just been emailed prove that Renault brembos will fit behind Titans :) Image The set up that I`m using is as good as the AP and Wilwood but cost only a monkey :)

Post 667049 by Jim S70R on 2013-12-07 20:38:00

You'll need spacers if your running one those brake upgrade kits with comets.

Post 667062 by mzafeer76 on 2013-12-07 21:05:33

Oblark didnt you have the renault calipers running with volans at one point?

Post 667078 by oblark on 2013-12-07 21:37:32

[QUOTE=mzafeer76;667062]Oblark didnt you have the renault calipers running with volans at one point?[/QUOTE] Yes i was running renault brembos under volans BUT I had to use a 10mm wheel spacer. With the spacer the wheel no longer located on thecentre of the hub but located on the wheel suds, this meant that I was limited to 60mph as anything faster the steering wheel would vibrate. That is why I`m now running pegs :)

Post 667098 by S70T5Chris on 2013-12-07 22:34:02

[QUOTE=Jim S70R;667049]You'll need spacers if your running one those brake upgrade kits with comets.[/QUOTE] Just FYI, 7.5j comets clear the AP kit. That's what Yosser is running on his Saffy S70R.

Post 667099 by Jim S70R on 2013-12-07 22:35:13

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;667098]Just FYI, 7.5j comets clear the AP kit. That's what Yosser is running on his Saffy S70R.[/QUOTE] Are they the comets from a C70 then?

Post 667117 by Yosser on 2013-12-07 22:53:44

[QUOTE=Jim S70R;667099]Are they the comets from a C70 then?[/QUOTE] As far as I know, yes. 7.5j clear the AP's without spacers. I did have 7j fitted with spacers but I really prefer to run without them.

Post 667129 by Jim S70R on 2013-12-07 23:07:19

[QUOTE=Yosser;667117]As far as I know, yes. 7.5j clear the AP's without spacers. I did have 7j fitted with spacers but I really prefer to run without them.[/ Good to know as to be honest I'm not that happy at the thought of running with spacer either. Cheers for the heads up though.

Post 667223 by S70T5Chris on 2013-12-08 04:25:02

[QUOTE=Jim S70R;667099]Are they the comets from a C70 then?[/QUOTE] Yes, I believe so. Might be worth keeping your eyes open for some. I'm not a fan of running spacers myself.

Post 668013 by Wobbly Dave on 2013-12-10 18:34:12

There was a company that designed and made bespoke 4 pot kits for 17 inch wheels on this forum - not as expensive as the APs. The issue with fitting any old caliper is the volume of the caliper will affect the brake bias. Chucking on any old brembo is a risky business. http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?40382-Affordable-4-pot-brake-kit I hope to invest in one next year.

Post 668881 by mzafeer76 on 2013-12-13 11:40:35

I did send an email to the bloke from thqt company WMS or something along them lines but he hasnt replied plus there was alot of interest on this site for the kits but its just seemed to have died no ones talking qbout them.either they werent produced or the quality of them probs wasnt what people expected.

Post 668886 by merc85 on 2013-12-13 11:58:43

[QUOTE=mzafeer76;668881]I did send an email to the bloke from thqt company WMS or something along them lines but he hasnt replied plus there was alot of interest on this site for the kits but its just seemed to have died no ones talking qbout them.either they werent produced or the quality of them probs wasnt what people expected.[/QUOTE] I want some bigger brake but runing 7j Comets atm, Was also looking at the willwood kits but i dont think they will clear a 7j comet. anyone know what bigger brake kit around £500 will do?

Post 668889 by M-R-P on 2013-12-13 12:10:33

You P1 boys and your tiny brakes :uglyhamme

Post 668891 by merc85 on 2013-12-13 12:17:38

[QUOTE=M-R-P;668889]You P1 boys and your tiny brakes :uglyhamme[/QUOTE] yeah yeah, you and your tiny BHP lol ;)

Post 668892 by M-R-P on 2013-12-13 12:19:44

[QUOTE=merc85;668891]yeah yeah, you and your tiny BHP lol ;)[/QUOTE] No point having all that power if you have to use stationary objects to stop the thing mate ;)

Post 668898 by merc85 on 2013-12-13 13:11:09

[QUOTE=M-R-P;668892]No point having all that power if you have to use stationary objects to stop the thing mate ;)[/QUOTE] yeah i know lol tell me about it

Post 668995 by mzafeer76 on 2013-12-13 18:11:33

Think the wilwoods kits with 330mm discs and superlites will fit but u will need spacers.i have the same problem with my volans dnt want to use spacers.was looking at the k sport kits they have god reviews but they around 800 quid.

Post 669034 by merc85 on 2013-12-13 19:24:58

[QUOTE=mzafeer76;668995]Think the wilwoods kits with 330mm discs and superlites will fit but u will need spacers.i have the same problem with my volans dnt want to use spacers.was looking at the k sport kits they have god reviews but they around 800 quid.[/QUOTE] Ive just got a template through, Willwoods is a deffo no no wont clear 7j would be very close with 7.5j, im not gonna run anything with spaces. ;)

Post 669037 by V70 Graham on 2013-12-13 19:29:08

As Martin said.....us P1 boys and our small brakes.