Hi All. I bought my first Volvo on tuesday ( '96 T5) and it's dead already!! Went to leave work yesterday and the little sod won't start. It will turn over but nothing.......... Plenty of fuel in the tank, good battery, immobiliser light not flashing when I turn over the engine. Great start eh? All advise very very welcome................ Cheers
hi and :welcome: not the best of starts - excuse the pun :) auto or man? are you sure battery good, had similar prob but battery 'sounded' ok but just didn't have enough in it to turn and fire
Hi, it's a manual. The car turned over fairly strongly so I assumed it had a good battery though it's almost flat now( repeated turning over in frustration!). Now that you mention the battery thing..... Yesterday morning on the way to work I could have sworn I noticed the headlights dim when I operated the windows or braked. Thought I was imagining it tho.
Damp in the electrics?
[quote=gareth]Hi All. I bought my first Volvo on tuesday ( '96 T5) and it's dead already!! Went to leave work yesterday and the little sod won't start. It will turn over but nothing.......... Plenty of fuel in the tank, good battery, immobiliser light not flashing when I turn over the engine. Great start eh? All advise very very welcome................ Cheers[/quote] Sounds like fuel pump, press the little nipple on the side of the HP Fuel rail and see if some squirts out (Use a rag to catch it) - BE CAREFULL... Does it hum when you switch the ignition to position 2.
[QUOTE=gareth]Hi All. I bought my first Volvo on tuesday ( '96 T5) and it's dead already!! Went to leave work yesterday and the little sod won't start. It will turn over but nothing.......... Plenty of fuel in the tank, good battery, immobiliser light not flashing when I turn over the engine. Great start eh? All advise very very welcome................ Cheers[/QUOTE] Check the fault codes. It could be something like a cam position sensor. Adam.
But where to look? I has been P!$$ing down with rain here too. My regular mechanic can't come out & his diagnostics wont work on a 96 Volvo only 99 on. I wonder if I should call an auto electrician? I'm utterly gutted. Picked the car up on monday night & drove almost 400 miles home without missing a beat, then yesterday.........dead as a dodo. Any other way to check fault codes? Really can't afford a main dealer.
[quote=gareth]But where to look? I has been P!$$ing down with rain here too. My regular mechanic can't come out & his diagnostics wont work on a 96 Volvo only 99 on. I wonder if I should call an auto electrician? I'm utterly gutted. Picked the car up on monday night & drove almost 400 miles home without missing a beat, then yesterday.........dead as a dodo. Any other way to check fault codes? Really can't afford a main dealer.[/quote] Join the RAC or AA - Costs 40 - 60 quid - then hire a car for 24 hours while you wait for the service to run, thats about £25... It's cheaper than a garage and they usually find the fault.
Ok Dreadly, just tried that. The pump does hum for a second or two when the key is in position 2, then I tried pressing the nipple and nothing happened. Bad news??
[quote=gareth]Ok Dreadly, just tried that. The pump does hum for a second or two when the key is in position 2, then I tried pressing the nipple and nothing happened. Bad news??[/quote] Err, I'm pretty sure fuel should come out but I'm not a mechanic!!! - Maybe VT or somebody could add something regarding this. It's just I have heard of others with the same problem as you and it turned out to be fuel pump. Has it logged any faults - A cheap code reader from Halfrauds will do, or it may be one of those models with a built in code reader? Have you taken a plug out and checked for a spark? (The basics)... All you need is Fuel/Air/Spark - Try to find what you are missing.. - Oh and compression, but if that's missing you have got real problems :)
Spark test next. Cant find the Torx drivers in the workshop here. Someone "borrowed" them & the plug socket is missing from the socket set. It just gets better and better.
[quote=gareth]Spark test next. Cant find the Torx drivers in the workshop here. Someone "borrowed" them & the plug socket is missing from the socket set. It just gets better and better.[/quote] Lol, sometimes a flat head screwdriver can be 'Bodged' to undo torx bit's with the help of an angle grinder, I have used an allen key before. I am the master of tool bodging, cos I grew up on a farm. - Have you tried a hammer ?
[QUOTE=gareth]Spark test next. Cant find the Torx drivers in the workshop here. Someone "borrowed" them & the plug socket is missing from the socket set. It just gets better and better.[/QUOTE] Problem is, the spark test will only prove whether you have a spark or not. It won't tell you why!!! You really need to get the fault codes read because that will save you a lot of faffing around. Things like cam sensors being faulty will mean the engine won't fire. Adam.
Have you tried a hammer ?Might be a gallon of petrol and a match the way I feel right now:pants: I'll have to get it towed to my mechanic( I've got free recovery with my insurance) but his machine can only read codes on '99 on volvos, dont know anyone else around and really cannot afford to pay a main dealer. I'm as sick as a small hospital!
[quote=volvotuning]Problem is, the spark test will only prove whether you have a spark or not. It won't tell you why!!! You really need to get the fault codes read because that will save you a lot of faffing around. Things like cam sensors being faulty will mean the engine won't fire. Adam.[/quote] Lol, learn something every day, I thought only cavaliers/vectra's suffered cam sensor issues...
[QUOTE=dreadly]Lol, learn something every day, I thought only cavaliers/vectra's suffered cam sensor issues...[/QUOTE] It's a 10 year old car, so could be anything! Adam.
[quote=volvotuning]It's a 10 year old car, so could be anything! Adam.[/quote] Good point, I forget how old the T5 lump is!
[QUOTE=gareth]Hi All. I bought my first Volvo on tuesday ( '96 T5) and it's dead already!! Went to leave work yesterday and the little sod won't start. It will turn over but nothing.......... Plenty of fuel in the tank, good battery, immobiliser light not flashing when I turn over the engine. Great start eh? All advise very very welcome................ Cheers[/QUOTE] send me a pm with your phone number [email]your@themaddam.wanadoo.co.uk[/email]
[quote=Paullyp]send me a pm with your phone number [EMAIL="your@themaddam.wanadoo.co.uk"]your@themaddam.wanadoo.co.uk[/EMAIL][/quote] Well, look on the bright side, you may have a dead volvo, but you have just pulled :) Lol...
I don't suppose there is the possibility of this being OBD I is there? I am always confused by years and changes to spec. At the risk of appearing an idiot I'll ask. Is the OBD interface inside the car or under the bonnet?
Its OBD II, inside the car, forward of gear lever under a coin holder.
[quote=Matt30462]I don't suppose there is the possibility of this being OBD I is there? I am always confused by years and changes to spec. At the risk of appearing an idiot I'll ask. Is the OBD interface inside the car or under the bonnet?[/quote] On me dads P1 V70, it's in the armrest in front of the gearstick.
B*****k's. Hoped for you that it may have been a 95 car. Just registered later. Nevermind, someone on here will have the answer.
Possibly another stupid question but here goes......Will it jump or bump start? Where are you, maybe someone is nearby who has the knack to fix these things.
[quote=gareth]Hi All. I bought my first Volvo on tuesday ( '96 T5) and it's dead already!! Went to leave work yesterday and the little sod won't start. It will turn over but nothing.......... Plenty of fuel in the tank, good battery, immobiliser light not flashing when I turn over the engine. Great start eh? All advise very very welcome................ Cheers[/quote] Gareth, turn on your location public setting in your UserCP so we can see where you are located. Somebody on here may be local?
Sorry guys, doubt I'm local to anyone. I bought the car in Yeovil, but I live in Limerick- Ireland. Drove home without missing a beat too. Freaking out here. Hope I wasn't sold a dog........
[QUOTE=gareth]Its OBD II, inside the car, forward of gear lever under a coin holder.[/QUOTE] Sounds like the early version of OBDII your mechanic should be able to get some readings with his reader As said add your location to your profile and there maybe someone near to you who maybe able to help (beat me to it) Cheers stuart
[QUOTE]Sounds like the early version of OBDII your mechanic should be able to get some readings with his reader [/QUOTE] Unfortunately i don't think so. He says it will only read for '99 on Volvos. Probably have to bite the bullet and just get it towed in to him. Two days, then this :mad111:
Try a set of jump leads on it from a decent car i.e 2ltr or bigger. Leave it running for 10mins and then try and start yours up. If it does, then id be inclined to change the battery and go from there.
[quote=BlackBeast]Try a set of jump leads on it from a decent car i.e 2ltr or bigger. Leave it running for 10mins and then try and start yours up. If it does, then id be inclined to change the battery and go from there.[/quote] He already stated it turned over no problem...
I have a horrible feeling it's not the battery. We tried jump starting it, no difference, just turning over. Don't really have the energy to try push start almost two tonnes of car either ! I've had a suggestion that it may be the crank position sensor. Anyone got any thoughts? BTW all this help is really really appreciated. Thanks a million.
[QUOTE=dreadly]He already stated it turned over no problem...[/QUOTE] When my car had the problem of not starting, it would turn over with no problems but it just wouldnt catch. Changed the battery and it started immeadietly.
try and get the codes read mate! maybe someone local can
Looks like your gonna have to bite the bullet You really need the codes read so you can find out whats going on if any have been logged As adam says it could well be the cam position sensor which if out of alignment will not allow the car to start Cheers stuart
Bullet bitten, tow truck called. The flippin' indignity. :brokenhea Anyone wanna buy a '96 T5 GLT wagon?????? Make a nice chicken coup.
[QUOTE=gareth]Bullet bitten, tow truck called. The flippin' indignity. :brokenhea Anyone wanna buy a '96 T5 GLT wagon?????? Make a nice chicken coup.[/QUOTE] Don`t be too disheartened mate It may not cost you the earth to fix a minor glitch We all have problems with our motors from time to time Check out this thread and read all about my car http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/t12133-more-pictures-of-my-v70.html Maybe it will put a smile back on your face Cheers stuart
Gotta say though, even if I feel like this::splat: now, after 400+ miles on the drive home after collecting it I felt like this ::rolling_e :rolling_e :eek: :D :D :D :D :D :D Jesus, I've never experienced acceleration so fast in an office block before :D Fingers crossed and I'll keep everyone posted as to what was/is wrong.
[QUOTE=gareth]Gotta say though, even if I feel like this::splat: now, after 400+ miles on the drive home after collecting it I felt like this ::rolling_e :rolling_e :eek: :D :D :D :D :D :D Jesus, I've never experienced acceleration so fast in an office block before :D Fingers crossed and I'll keep everyone posted as to what was/is wrong.[/QUOTE] All will be well in the end mate Cheers stuart
Cheers folks, thanks again for the advice. Hopefully I'll be rolling again soon. I'll ley you know what happened- if my wife doesn't kill me first!
[quote=gareth]Cheers folks, thanks again for the advice. Hopefully I'll be rolling again soon. I'll ley you know what happened- if my wife doesn't kill me first![/quote] Tell the wife your sending it off to have a massage chair fitted for her :)
if the lights and so on dipped when braking i.e went dimmer then it sounds like alternator faults
i had the cam position sensor go on me while in holland it turned over but that was it so i taped it gently with a hammer and the car fired up for 10 secs and died again towed it to the local volvo dealer told them what it was then they pluged it in to the computer and guess what it was lol who needs a code reader lmao 15 mins later new cam sensor in and purring like a kitten
Here is the idiots guide of most starting problems with 1992-1995 850's (all models, T5 especially), I know because I have seen and been through them all, starting from the most obvious..(FORGET ABOUT FUEL/BATTERIES/ETC..ETC..) 1..Coil/module breakdown 2..Crankshaft (TDC) sensor 3..Fuel pump relay (check fuse) 4..Relay for fuel/ ignition system (under front cover at radiator fan) 5..Your ECU..it is usually not the ECU. Hope this helps, any starting problems with 850's contact me, advice is FREE [email]your@themaddam.wanadoo.co.uk[/email]
thats mighty kind of you :hail:
Took mine to the Main dealer and he read the fault code free of charge and cleared it for me. Worth a try! Good luck!
i think fuel pump relay
Hi Guys. Just a quick update- I've just spoken to the garage and they can't read the fault codes, definitely only '99 on Volvos, however they went about it the old fashioned way and say that there is no spark ( thats something I hope). Hopefully just a coil/amp module??????? Is it possible it's the immobiliser? I'm just grasping at straws cos I need the car running by the weekend.
[QUOTE=gareth]Hi Guys. Just a quick update- I've just spoken to the garage and they can't read the fault codes, definitely only '99 on Volvos, however they went about it the old fashioned way and say that there is no spark ( thats something I hope). Hopefully just a coil/amp module??????? Is it possible it's the immobiliser? I'm just grasping at straws cos I need the car running by the weekend.[/QUOTE] It could also be the cam position or crank sensor!!! lol. All the answers on this thread have given you some ideas, so read through again, write them down, and start changing things. Adam.
Aw Bo!!ock$, back to the drawing board! A coil is €120+vat over here and I dont even want to know how much the sensors are! Unfortunately when you are on a bit of a budget changing things can really hurt but I suppose I could look at it as preventative maintenance.
I think I know what your problem is, I don't have the time to offer individual advise online...you have my number.P. P.S Don't think it is your immobiliser/coil pack..the garage could have checked these items in minutes.P.
my friend is suffering similar symptoms gareth.......... If you get it sorted will you let us know what the problem was?
Latest update..........:frown: : New coil............................... no go. New crank position sensor....... no go. F^£k it...................:frown:
[quote=gareth]Latest update..........:frown: : New coil............................... no go. New crank position sensor....... no go. F^£k it...................:frown:[/quote] Camshaft Sensor??? Can you purchase a DIY ODBII code reader? - Cheaply :)
No joy with getting a code reader, will try camshaft sensor & injection system relay( cheers Paul!) tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
May the God of VOLVO shine down on you and say..start ya B*"!+*D, the lesson is ended.
[QUOTE=gareth]Latest update..........:frown: : New coil............................... no go. New crank position sensor....... no go. F^£k it...................:frown:[/QUOTE] Try a can of petrol and a match, that will get things started.Seriously though i feel for you. We all love our volvos when they work but when they don't you just want to push um over a cliff. Hope you sort it soon.:wavey:
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PAULLYP, you are officially the Volvo Guru!:bow_kneel :beer: I really owe you one mate, a million thanks. Its alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now for the science bit: Paul suggested replacing the fuel inj system relay located under the fan cowling in the engine bay. I bought one this morning and went to the garage to fit it myself, when I went to fit it I noticed that TWO of the wires on the relay connector were badly corroded, green in fact. A quick trip to Maplins for some connectors later and the car fired up on the first turn of the key( albeit with the help of a booster pack). I'm as happy as a dog with two mickeys!! Now for that top engine mount...................... [QUOTE]We all love our volvos when they work but when they don't you just want to push um over a cliff. [/QUOTE]...It was too sodding heavy otherwise....
Glad your up and running mate All praise to paullyp :bow_kneel :bow_kneel Cheers stuart
Well done you kept on with that one mate i would have shamshed it to pices by now, happy motoring
And so endeth this lesson, I am sure I will be needed again, remember my e-mail address [email]your@themaddam.wanadoo.co.uk[/email]. ALL ADVICE is free, its nice to be nice.
Nice one Paul, This is what we like to see ;)
Mate, I would have been stuffed without the help, utterly. I'll give you a bell later. Even this morning the garage were telling me to tow it to the main dealer and get it sorted. "nope, dont think it could have anything to do with THAT relay" Im bleedin' ecstatic. A massive thanks to all who offered their help and advise. Watch out, T5's about Yaaaaaaay
Wow, cool, I thought it was a bit supicious that no fuel squirted out of that bleed nipple. Mine hits the neighbours fence :) Glad you got it sorted though, well done Paully.
I believe that the more we can fix our own cars, either from our own knowledge or that of others the more likley we are to keep our cars. I will always endeavour to steer people away from Main Dealer hourly rates when and if I can. I don't know about you Guys and Girls but my other half goes Ballistic when I tell her how much it costs to fix the various things that can and eventually do go wrong with cars, however if it can be fixed on the cheap all the better. Anyway I am away to absorb more knowledge (cider). CUL8R,P:wave23d:
Very Very Well Done!!
Top Result....Well done Guys. :wave23d:
[QUOTE=Paullyp]And so endeth this lesson, I am sure I will be needed again, remember my e-mail address [email]your@themaddam.wanadoo.co.uk[/email]. ALL ADVICE is free, its nice to be nice.[/QUOTE] Sooooooooo? What was it then?
[QUOTE=Matt30462]Sooooooooo? What was it then?[/QUOTE] I believe it was this mate Now for the science bit: Paul suggested replacing the fuel inj system relay located under the fan cowling in the engine bay. I bought one this morning and went to the garage to fit it myself, when I went to fit it I noticed that TWO of the wires on the relay connector were badly corroded, green in fact. A quick trip to Maplins for some connectors later and the car fired up on the first turn of the key( albeit with the help of a booster pack). Ho hum Cheers stuart