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    Sweep, About buying a V70t5 and wishing you had got an 850t5? The answer is to try them both! Ive got an s70T5 (pre me7) which i am now breaking and my daily is a low mileage 855 t5 manual, I prefer the 855, I personally think it looks better, It has a more raw feel to it and i prefer the 850 dash etc, It feels 'more' Volvo like my old 745 i had!
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    For those who prefer the "raw" feel of the 850's over the s/v70s, have a drive in an s60/v70
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    Quote Originally Posted by T5frankie View Post
    lol still none the wiser
    I simply don`t understand how you are non the wiser after reading Gavs LINK!!....this is not where i got my info from that is new to me that link.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmie View Post
    960kg,Our old 850 T5 had the B5234T3 engine fitted when it was bought new.
    But it was a 97 model year.
    Don`t forget there is a change over period. Although i did say Vadis says this engine was not in the 850 from the factory...Vadis makes mistakes also....You must have one of the latest 850`s. I have one of the earliest V70 January 1997. So what does your logbook say for a date?

    Quote Originally Posted by merc85 View Post
    Just been looking at a old volvo microfische and the part numbers for the connecting rod looks like it only changed in 2001 onwards upto then thay all had the same rod part number, 1270483
    All these numbers are complicated but i found the numbers this morning i did not go right the way back to `93 but the rods did do a change in `96 on the 850. Have a look at the chart.

    Quote Originally Posted by T5frankie View Post
    is that a dig at me? ill have you know i am one of the fleets top ecotrak drivers so i know exactly how to drive mate
    Did you say anorak driver!........Frankie if you take this serious then you MUST feel guilty Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by LiamT4 View Post
    Well, you've just contradicted yourself, i did quote you, here is the end of what you said.
    Do you really expect me to put the word "easier"........i think you understand what i meant.

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    I do only try to help others with Specifications quoted by Volvo.......i don`t sit here and make them all up, i always have proof of what i say and don`t ever pretend to know it all, far from it with my humble tune on my V70.

    I get in a knot myself sometimes with all the gumf but hey i don`t read story books just about Volvo`s.
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    Here`s one for you Frankie and your exhaust manifolds........the 850 auto manifold is different to the manual or 850R which also had a newer one later on which is also fitted to the V70 to help get the extra power along with the different turbo.
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    Thanks for that 960KG, my fische didnt list the super session as like i said was very old and not from vardis.

    Its nice to know i should be safe with Blacky's B5234ft3 engine runing my moderate boost with a bcs

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    Quote Originally Posted by 960kg View Post
    Do you really expect me to put the word "easier"........
    Yes, actually i do. There is a big difference between "can bend easier" and "Plain 850 rods bend........period."

    Also, reading about the manifolds, the one in the 850R was the same that was fitted to the s/v/c70s t5/R until the me7, which is what has been said.
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    Hello,very old thread but cant seem to find any certain info online.i have a 1996 850 t5 (b2345t) and a 1997 v70 t5 (b2345t3) the 850 needs work and the clutch in the v70 just packed in so i was wondering would there be much issue with using the t3 engine in the 850 as it is a much lower mileage and better engine.i have done a few honda conversions so am good with the basics and have checked the flanges are the same with the 16t turbo just not sure about ecus and so on on these cars.as in would i have to swap ancillaries to the block and manifolds and stuff or would it be closer to just drop in plug and play?any info would be much appreciated,thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by b5bruce View Post
    Hello,very old thread but cant seem to find any certain info online.i have a 1996 850 t5 (b2345t) and a 1997 v70 t5 (b2345t3) the 850 needs work and the clutch in the v70 just packed in so i was wondering would there be much issue with using the t3 engine in the 850 as it is a much lower mileage and better engine.i have done a few honda conversions so am good with the basics and have checked the flanges are the same with the 16t turbo just not sure about ecus and so on on these cars.as in would i have to swap ancillaries to the block and manifolds and stuff or would it be closer to just drop in plug and play?any info would be much appreciated,thank you
    This should be a straight swap pretty much, may be slight issues with fpr/fuel return pipes and internal (concentric) clutch slave cylinder but these can easily be swapped about with engines out, you should even be able to just swap other the ecu's too, and have the possible benefit of a 4.4 from the v70 (possibly) in you 850

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    Tank you for the feedback man,i thought as much just didnt want to run into anything too timely when engines are out as will need car back on road but should be good and am looking forward to the swap,i would like a few more ponies also so was thinking when engine is out do all the work so will need to find out what will work best i.e injectors different inlet and exhaust manifolds and just some info of what yields decent results for good money i see alot of ppl going all s60r?also my cat was robbed off my 850 so i have to get downpipe anyway has anyone any reccomondations or experience as to what these engines like? ie.downpipe and exhaust size and what works well,and i am probably going to have a couple of boxes to choose from i just missed a m59 box and shafts but recently read that if you are adding power the couplings might not be up to the job so just put a diff in the m56/56h?

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    Best bang for buck from my experience so far on an 850 is S60R manifold or Japanifold, late angled flange hotside fitted to your turbo, blues or green injectors but this will depend on your map and maf, I run a 3" tb and custom 2.5" rip and intake system, also due to running bcs and possibly high boost levels than normal, I also run water/meth injection to keep knock at bay as much as possible and running a reliable 300hp and some massive torque of 501nm, then couple that with a car that runs a close low ratio 2.0l gearbox with quaife atb is a very rapid weapon on the drag strip even with a 15g std turbo....obviously this is a cheapish bang for buck formula and will depend on maps etc, but it works for me at present and the next step for me is learning to datalog and then adjust my own maps to suit and hopefully see even better gains from the 15g before we upgrade the turbo after acheiving my new goal of a 12's car running a 15g turbo....why.....because they say 13's couldn't be done, 13.4 is my best so 12.99 is the new goal.......looking forward to the next few months progress....

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    HAHA fair play bro alot of good achievements come from "CANT" keep er lit very fast cars but id say the trouble is getting her moving?thanks again man great info,sorry i have been away for a while,ok cool i see alot of ppl going for the angled hotside is this to try and eliminate the bad bend in the pipe?and i am going to aim for the japanifold as i want to keep the 5 cyl burble ha.i have changed my mind on doing the conversion straight away as i said i mite aswell get what i can out of the b2345t before she gives up,also i am certain there is mods done to this saloon (b2345t) as she has about 200,000 miles (cog gone) and 10 previous owners and does not feel like 225 brake ha.so i said i am going to do a few tweaks and refinements to this engine and scald her till she says no more ha because its just past saving at this point,but am ok with this as i have a b2345t3 waiting with only 70k on her and am wondering about boxes and injectors as this t3 engine has white injectors and i am not sure of the box but whatever the box code is there is a much less amount of miles on it than the one in the saloon, (but mayb can keep both)So as a daily driver is there much difference in the m56 boxes as i am only sure its not an m59 in either of the cars?i will deffo be buying an lsd as soon as i figure out whats going on with the boxes.that is 100% best info i have got bang for buck as i am only trying to do like OEM+ again i think my t3 has a 16t so i was planning on a few bolt ons and a good map to yield 280-300 jus a bit more reliable power for a daily,also will deffo look at meth for temps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoleT-5R View Post
    internal (concentric) clutch slave cylinder but these can easily be swapped about with engines out
    Sorry Mr Mole but I gotta disagree with you there you cannot fit/use an external slave on a gearbox designed to use an internal, when I did my clutch recently I'd got my hands on an M56 with an internal slave and I had the two boxes side by side and I couldn't figure out how to use my external slave as the bell housing casting was significantly different with the bolt holes.... You would definitely need to use the slave it was designed for and use the corresponding hydraulic pipes

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigoodwood View Post
    Sorry Mr Mole but I gotta disagree with you there you cannot fit/use an external slave on a gearbox designed to use an internal, when I did my clutch recently I'd got my hands on an M56 with an internal slave and I had the two boxes side by side and I couldn't figure out how to use my external slave as the bell housing casting was significantly different with the bolt holes.... You would definitely need to use the slave it was designed for and use the corresponding hydraulic pipes
    sorry should have mentioned that a little drilling and tapping may be required, but it's not to difficult really

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    Hi is it possible for me to go to a SFW and use my existing internal slave setup?i am looking at trying a lighter solid flywheel?dont fancy putting loads of dual masses in it i dont care about shutters or cruisability.thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b5bruce View Post
    Hi is it possible for me to go to a SFW and use my existing internal slave setup?i am looking at trying a lighter solid flywheel?dont fancy putting loads of dual masses in it i dont care about shutters or cruisability.thanks in advance.
    should be, almost everything is possible, what vehicle have you got that you wish to do this to..?

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    thanks man,A 1998 v70 t5,clutch went and dualmass is nackered i have the box out and it is a m56h,would a lightweight fly wheel be any benifit?viva performance do a decent looking one for alright money.and was going to just go with a R Clutch kit.ive seen prices of luk DMF alone for like 600 so F that,but then i see whole 3 and 4 piece kits for like 200-400 but due to all the labour i want it decent going back in no crap stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b5bruce View Post
    thanks man,A 1998 v70 t5,clutch went and dualmass is nackered i have the box out and it is a m56h,would a lightweight fly wheel be any benifit?viva performance do a decent looking one for alright money.and was going to just go with a R Clutch kit.ive seen prices of luk DMF alone for like 600 so F that,but then i see whole 3 and 4 piece kits for like 200-400 but due to all the labour i want it decent going back in no crap stuff.
    I'd have a word with TTV Racing they do very nice light weight flywheels and may be able to give you the complete package, seem to think there flywheel with an 850 clutch will drop straight in, don't quote me but I seem to recall reading that some where, but TTV should be able to confirm this.

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    Great info man,i have been talking with them and unfortunately they only ever designed one for the m66,would love that conversion but wont be happening this time around ha.has any1 got any direction on where to buy an R clutch?Would probably be my best bet and go with that lightened flywheel from viva performance as they said they can ship it with a courier.

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    You could try https://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/ they do the genuine R clutch and lots of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b5bruce View Post
    Great info man,i have been talking with them and unfortunately they only ever designed one for the m66,would love that conversion but wont be happening this time around ha.has any1 got any direction on where to buy an R clutch?Would probably be my best bet and go with that lightened flywheel from viva performance as they said they can ship it with a courier.
    Was the price as pretty as their work looks to be....??

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