i bet this thread is still going on in a months time. id rather parts with £50 and enjoy my weekend.
i bet this thread is still going on in a months time. id rather parts with £50 and enjoy my weekend.
so give us the heads up. what yous going to test, the coils? cant see what else you can do woth out swaping parts. but i wouldnt recoment this as neither are running right.
I can see both sides, Graeme is simply stating (correctly imho) that a trip to a Volvo specialist, and a few quid spent on diagnostics would pinpoint the problem(s) and James is adamant that he wants to try as much as he can himself and rule out things as he goes along without spending too much money.
At the end of the day it's James who has to decide, though there is nothing wrong with us all giving our opinions.
Have either of you sought the help of T5D5 and VOC on this issue - I'd recommend canvassing a wider audience as this is a small community and lots of the members on the other forums don't read/post on this one.
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You're wrong mate. If you guys sort the problems with at least on of the cars we'll all be behind you.
You're looking at our opinions the wrong way mate. As a collective of people, we have a fair bit of knowledge on the subject.
Here's what we know...
You both have very similar issues with your engines. Both your engines are the same age and high mileage. You both have a Marelli ETM. You both did something relating to the ETM that could possibly need a software update. You both have exhausted pretty much all obvious courses of action. I personally believe there's nothing left but to bite the bullet and get it checked as there's nothing you can do with a spanner that'll change things, unless, by some freak of fate, you both have a cracked boost pipe (or similar) and haven't noticed it.
Nobody wants you to fail guys, the "tortch the thing" comments are meant as a bit of banter, as always. you've gotta laugh or you'll cry - trust me . We all want to see another volvo (or two) kept on the roads.
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claymore (Friday 21st June 2013)
Good luck James and Ed! Hope you get to the bottom of the problem on Saturday. Keep us posted..........
JamesT5 (Friday 21st June 2013)
Yep, good luck guys. If you happen to find the fault then thats all good. Plus its additional knowledge and info which could help others in the future.
JamesT5 (Friday 21st June 2013)
Good luck guys. I reckon you've got an air leak somewhere personally.
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JamesT5 (Friday 21st June 2013)
JamesT5 (Saturday 22nd June 2013)
Any news yet ?
I did have the exact same thing - but flogged it when I got rid of my S60
I think for the fact that I can probablynot interpret data as well as a professional, it may be a trip to the specialists.
Yes i'll have to pop down there - may need trailering though - they're by Euro and GSF aren't they.
Totally agree, Graeme is saying don't waste time when a proper diagnostic will tell you straight away. James is saying at least try practical things first as we have all had the moment when a fuse has gone, or a plugs come undone, or a clip has come off etc - both are valid points.
Admittedly no, I will have to sign up on there and post up, see if they can help more.
Agreed other than my problems started at 98k and currently on 100k - I don't consider that high mileage compared to some but I see your point everything has been ruled out now but it was worth it just in case it was something simple
Thanks all.
UPDATE:
The overall outcome of yesterday afternoon is that the car is not fixed.
However, we did manage to rule out a fair few bits which, in my eyes, made the time spent on the car worthwhile...
1. Tested all coil packs with spare units.
2. Swapped ETM's. This is the interesting part as my car started and ran with James ETM and therefore would suggest that these units do not need any kind of re-flash or reload. Albeit the running problem remained, so we can probably rule the ETM out as being the issue, as my car behaved this way prior to my ETM overhaul, after my ETM overhaul and with James ETM too... but it started and drove which possibly puts that point to rest.
3. Swapped MAF's. Wow, those anti tamper screws, I really love those things anyway, swapped them over and no change.
4. Swapped one of the air sensors from the intercooler to throttle body pipe - admittedly it would've been a better idea to swap James whole pipe onto my car but this is in hindsight. One thing we noticed was, the sensor pulled out of my boost pipe very easily, almost too easily, but James removed his with great trouble (as you would imagine for a sensor that's meant to be air tight). Anyway, fitted this and gave it a good bit of movement while the engine was running but it didn't really make any difference at all.
5. Got part of the way to swapping the valve/solenoid/sensor that is attached to the side of the airbox. Sadly, beaten by the smell of steak and chips on the dinner table (red wine sauce, mushrooms, garlic bread). So we didn't manage to get this swapped over although was interesting to have a mess with those vac pipes and it seems they are a bit worn but no splits or cracks - I don't think anyway?!
Across the whole of our test the car threw no fault codes. Great. To add insult to inury, after the day was over I reversed my car off the driveway to let James off and as I took the car down the road opposite my house, gave it 'WOT' and the car took off like a rocket. There was me thinking 'wow maybe something has fixed itself'... spun the car round and drove back and it began to splutter again, pulled onto the driveway and it cut out. So we know it's intermittent which probably doesn't help matters. When we test drove the car throughout the day, James said it felt like some kind of boost problem as at times it seems to pull then it stutters... pulls... stutters and feels very on/off when driven. Air leak? Who knows!
Massive thanks to JamesT5 who cam two hours from Wales to West Mids to help me out. He's a good person to know.
I think I've reached the end of the line for what I can do and the time I can spend on the car. With running my own business and currently house hunting, I haven't got the time or energy to be bent over with my head stuck inside the engine bay. So it's off to a Volvo specialist maybe this week or next...
...all I know is it needs sorting out quickly, my work van doesn't have heated seats!
Thanks Ed
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jamesy12345 (Monday 24th June 2013)
Good effort chaps.
2005 (163) V70 D5 SE Premium Pack 130k. 10" sub/Fli amp with Grom audio kit. Shark stage 1 with EGR delete and 320mm discs. Enjoying the comfort and (relative) economy.
Leeds_finest (Sunday 23rd June 2013)
Saw a friend of a friend yesterday. He has a MY 2000 V70 2.4 N/A. His etm played up and he sourced a brand new remanufactured marelli unit, fitted it and it cured the erratic idle, mostly, but it ran like a bag of $h1te. He had a software update from the local stealer and hey-presto car runs perfect.
That's confirmation if you needed it.
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just a thought but have you tried doing a continuity test on the coil pack wiring. its could be a break in a wire and its moving about. well done for trying and admiting defeat not allways easy to do. fault finding isnt as easy as people think. look forward to hearing its fixed soon and was sumit realy silly
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So would that be pulling the plug connectors off each one and sticking a multimeter across the pins? Are there three pins per plug or two I can't remember? Well worth a try though and we didn't check that yesterday.
Agreed - it's not easy and there was some car cursing when we were refitting ETM's but was worth ruling a few things out and yes hopefully nothing too hard to fix (will take to GRN or HLM soon).
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19t, greens, 3" inlet, 3" downpipe with race cat, V70R catback, autotech map...
310.2bhp / 333ft/lb
2016 Swedish Day UK "Best Modified Swede"
SOLD
Got an old discovery now.
well there yous have it fellas. looks like mrp has hit nail on the head
s60 2.4 t5 eibach springs,up rated rear anti roll bar, poly bushed wishbones, poly lower engine mount, fmic, bmc air filter, 3" decat, 2.5" stainless exhaust,hlm remap 328bhp,
Ok and was it an ETM reload or a complete software update... Or are they part of the same thing?
Cheers
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