2014 V60 Polestar 6spd Auto :: Polestar map peak boost 17.4psi :: IPD 3" DP + 150cel :: Polestar 2.5" exhaust :: Paddle Shift Geartronic :: Black glass :: Maxton Splitter :: K+N Filter :: IPD Aluminium Top engine mount :: Brembo 6 pots :: 20" Polestar rims :: Brembo 371mm floating discs :: Sensus RTi + DAB + BT + WIFi :: D3S XENARC 6000k Active bending headlights
I agree mate - but if you look closer then you will see they are a complete bag of s*ite and probably won't get through the next MOT without spending more than the car is worth.
I sincerely hope that i never let any car i own get in such a sorry state. When i do, make sure you rob me of the keys and burn my driving license and ensure I'm never allowed to drive a Volvo again -
Last edited by LeeT5; Monday 4th February 2013 at 03:05.
2014 V60 Polestar 6spd Auto :: Polestar map peak boost 17.4psi :: IPD 3" DP + 150cel :: Polestar 2.5" exhaust :: Paddle Shift Geartronic :: Black glass :: Maxton Splitter :: K+N Filter :: IPD Aluminium Top engine mount :: Brembo 6 pots :: 20" Polestar rims :: Brembo 371mm floating discs :: Sensus RTi + DAB + BT + WIFi :: D3S XENARC 6000k Active bending headlights
Why feel you have to explain why you spend? Each to their own and all. (I'm also one of those people who has spent far more than the cars market value, it's a hobby though. Personally I've given up on resale value.....no point selling the car for what I'd get back.)
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I don't feel like i need to explain, it's just obvious that some people don't understand. I just needed to make the point. I think i did that? SO everybody should be clear that it really doesn't matter. At the end of the day, if you own an R or are thinking of getting one, you must be prepared to spend a heck of a lot keeping them sweet. It goes with the territory. If you don't want to spend or feel you can't manage then clearly an R is not for you. That not to say one could buy one and then spend the bare minimum or have a sealing as to what they will spend. If you do that then be prepared for the cars maintenance to overtake you and the car will invertibly suffer. Meaning, when you come to resell it will not fetch nearly as much as you would like.
2014 V60 Polestar 6spd Auto :: Polestar map peak boost 17.4psi :: IPD 3" DP + 150cel :: Polestar 2.5" exhaust :: Paddle Shift Geartronic :: Black glass :: Maxton Splitter :: K+N Filter :: IPD Aluminium Top engine mount :: Brembo 6 pots :: 20" Polestar rims :: Brembo 371mm floating discs :: Sensus RTi + DAB + BT + WIFi :: D3S XENARC 6000k Active bending headlights
2014 V60 Polestar 6spd Auto :: Polestar map peak boost 17.4psi :: IPD 3" DP + 150cel :: Polestar 2.5" exhaust :: Paddle Shift Geartronic :: Black glass :: Maxton Splitter :: K+N Filter :: IPD Aluminium Top engine mount :: Brembo 6 pots :: 20" Polestar rims :: Brembo 371mm floating discs :: Sensus RTi + DAB + BT + WIFi :: D3S XENARC 6000k Active bending headlights
I don't think anyone on here is out to turn a profit on their car. We have all spent irrational amounts of money, and any non car person or an accountant would think us mad. Resale value is not really in any of our minds.
As has been said, it is a hobby, if we did not love our cars we would not spend our hard earned on them. And we would only spend on something else if not our Volvo's.
I for one am not going to think about the silly amounts I have spent any more. I am just going to enjoy my car and make it the envy of my friends and not let the wife see any invoices!!
iancho (Monday 4th February 2013)
ah that'll be me, but i don't buy them with the intention of being concours examples. Bonny was bought to be a cheap economical daily driver & only time the bonnet gets opened generally is when i get a security check leaving work lol. Anything advisories on the MOT get sorted & normally uprated when i do change parts
i've got £13k of receipts for BT, but thats from 14years ownership
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p fandango (Monday 4th February 2013)
Lee;A few good posts there following on from the original poster whom i believe you have met and compared motors. I think you are both NUTS .
Did you need to change all those components that you mentioned or was it a case of just preventative measures.
For example:Steering shaft--
Alternator-Bonnet catch-Outer CV joints -Front top mounts-Inner track arms -
Anti roll bar links and track rod ends etc.A lot of the other stuff are just running repairs.
But like you inferred scrimp on maintenance is a nono which i agree with on any motor.Even more important if it's your bread and butter vehicle.
You also mentioned your labour rates that you enjoy not everyone are in that lucky position.That is not a criticism therefore do not take it the wrong way.
I doubt very much when the day comes to sell, your car will command much more in price it will only be easier to sell.A bit like putting a new kitchen in a house etc it wont make more money either as you need a kitchen unless you don't cook that is
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MisterC1501 (Monday 4th February 2013)
I think you have made an excellent comparason there Lee. Both Series 1 and Series 2 V70R's cost when new in the region of £40k, but in the late 90's, £40K was worth more than the £40k in mid 2005, so you actually got more car for your money. Your car possibly cost £10k to buy, and now you have spent approaching £15k on it for it to be worth , what, say £8k tops??
Has anyone really spent £10k on maintenance on a Series 1.....and by that I mean essential maintenance, that is, jobs that need to be done, rather than changing things just for the sake of it
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Mate, I ran my Saffy for 7 years as a daily driver with essentially routine maintenance, and it was in excellent condition when I sold it @ 158k.
As an owner of both Series 1 and 2 cars, you and Lee are possibly the best people who can compare the essential maintenance costs for both models. I think when you do this, you can objectively look at the results and the true cost will be revealed
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I think by Lee itemising his costs for routine maintenance, this has actually highlighted how maintenance reliant these cars actually are.
Personally, I thank both Lee and Martyn for doing this, since although my heart longs for a Series 2, my bank account would need a defibrilator to keep the thing alive!!
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LeeT5 (Tuesday 5th February 2013)
I can understand totally what Lee is saying, these cars need money spending on them to bring them right up to scratch, and as he says he is not expecting to spend anywhere near as much this year or indeed next year.
I have done similar with my P1, it's now at a stage where I have her just right and she should not cost me much this year at all......I hope
LeeT5 (Tuesday 5th February 2013)
£3.3K a year in maintenance, that's approx £275 a month before the car has travelled a single mile...........let's be realistic.
When will the essential maintenance ever end..................or will it
Have all the parts and component replacements been done to them wearing out or failing? Is Lee's car typical of EVERY Series 2 V70R or has he been unlucky?
Please note, I use Lee as an example and this is not about Lee, but the maintenance costs for one of these cars.
Above everything else, Lee and Martyn are enthusiasts and maintain their cars regardless of costs.........but lets be realistic, £10K is £10k whether for some it is loose change or the total lifes savings.......it's still alot of money.
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What i said was "Why do you have to "continue the trend"?? Is it just because your so anal about that type of stuff?" because it sounded as though you only got it serviced at a main dealer to "continue the trend". All you had to say was that the dealer you use is actually very good and they aren't that expensive either, but instead you go into a rant that drags on and on.
From reading threads like these and speaking to people who own M cars, it seems that the s60/v70r is the more expensive one to own. So your "what do you expect, it cost over 40k new" argument, doesn't hold up.........but its not the parts that are more expenive, its the fact that it seems to be a much more fragile car.
Now i'm sorry i couldn't produce a rant as impressive as yours but, as i don't get as worked up over these things as you do, i simply couldn't be bothered to carry on
MIKESC70T5 (Monday 4th February 2013)
My R cost in excess £4000.00 last year to repair which i think is very reasonable from a main dealer. If they had charged for everything e.g. diagnostics it would have even been more.
I do know that to keep any car or any road going vehicle in top condition it will cost you money which any experienced motorist should expect to pay imo.Even works vehicles cost money it's just that some people don't appreciate that fact!
Personaly speaking i would buy another R in a minute and that is after six years of ownership of this one.I have had volvo's for more years than i can count and not one has not cost money to maintain to a certain standard.
Fitting inferior components or secondhand parts is usually a false economy but it happens then people complain that things don't last long.
The Kid and Lee are fanatics (maybe too strong a word)about there cars but at least they do not break them at the drop of a hat like some people.
I don't know how long Lee has been into volvo's but the Kid has had a life time of that marque,poor soul.
Keep up the good work both of you.
But you are both still NUTS.
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