S60r buying advice

[stribo]

Nowt same as r has nowt the se lux hasnt. 354 bhp and bogged down by a 4wd system made of swish cheese. Theres nowt stoping me from having 354 bhp

Yeah, but try putting that power down on anything other than a dry, flat, smooth road, and you'll have wheelspin, and torque steer galore. The R however, just gets up and goes.

[Pauld]

What type of service did you get for that amount of money?

Hence the question....

[Harvey]

Yeah, but try putting that power down on anything other than a dry, flat, smooth road, and you'll have wheelspin, and torque steer galore. The R however, just gets up and goes.

All I can say is put some winter tyres on it and let's see who has the most fun in the snow,I had a great time last winter up on Dartmoor didn't get stuck once unlike most of the other cars ,ok it's only one week a year still.

[M-R-P]

Yeah, but try putting that power down on anything other than a dry, flat, smooth road, and you'll have wheelspin, and torque steer galore. The R however, just gets up and goes BANG in a shower of sparks and molten metal

Full sentance please...

[graemewelch]

Yeah, but try putting that power down on anything other than a dry, flat, smooth road, and you'll have wheelspin, and torque steer galore. The R however, just gets up and goes.

Ive tried it. Never had torque steer in my motor. Even in wet if put power down in a sensible way it wont spin. I keep my cars in tip top condition so i be worried if had torque steer. It would mean sumit is worn out on the suspension. End of the day though if we wanted a car that handles exelent dose very fast 1/4 mile wed buy evos. But we want a comfy refined quick car thats reliable ish (r drivers :-) and is safe should the worst ever happen and we are in a crash

[volvokid]

My 2k statement wasn't the best thing to say and leave it there. Yeah there was bushes and such that needed doing . I should have mentioned it got a replacement head unit too, so nothing was changed that you would really say is a typical r problem. The only thing I've had go wrong that is an expensive r part was my front shocks.

[d2k]

from what i can gather most if not all of the earlier S60Rs are very well cared for..... there's not many dogs out there, getting quite rare now.

they're serious enthusiasts models... but as others have said, for 2/3 grand you can pick up a facelift T5 (FWD) & attain comparable performance & comfort.

tbh..... i think you'd be hard pushed on uk roads to notice much of a difference between 290bhp & 320bhp unless your blatting up the M1 like its the autobahn....

though i wont lie... id love an S60R i just dont think i could fund the maintenance costs if it decides to go pete tong!!

[Jimmie]

Hence the question....

Hence the question to you when the parts are around £400 discounted.

[LeeT5]

Nowt same as r has nowt the se lux hasnt. 354 bhp and bogged down by a 4wd system made of swish cheese. Theres nowt stoping me from having 354 bhp

Oh come on, lets not get into a awd V fwd debate....there boring! We all know the pros and cons to both systems.

[Sharkey R]

The R is a rarer car and so will depreciate in value less than a T5.

[Sharkey R]

One thing you have to remember about the Rs is like all awds, it has higher transmission losses and weight over the 2wd versions. So once there is enough grip the awd is just extra drag and weight.

The R does have that "special" feeling over the t5 though and is obviously better when its dodgy conditions.

I think everyone should look on YouTube for the crazy Russian guy with a 500hp R. He's playing with that in snowy conditions.

[Sonor]

Well, having owned just about every T5 & R model (& plenty of them!) inc the S60T5, I am on my 2nd S60R. If you want a car thats cheap to run/maintain, don't buy one, end of. They're not as problamaic as people tend to make out either, you have to maintain them well though and don't scrimp. They're no worse than any other comparable performance car.
With regards to the T5 & R comparison, there is none. The R will run rings round a T5 from stand still & in the twisties and will stop a damn site quicker as well - on the road and track (in standard form).

[LeeT5]

Well, having owned just about every T5 & R model (& plenty of them!) inc the S60T5, I am on my 2nd S60R. If you want a car thats cheap to run/maintain, don't buy one, end of. They're not as problamaic as people tend to make out either, you have to maintain them well though and don't scrimp. They're no worse than any other comparable performance car.
With regards to the T5 & R comparison, there is none. The R will run rings round a T5 from stand still & in the twisties and will stop a damn site quicker as well - on the road and track (in standard form).

Enough said. NEXT!!!

[jdavis]

quite a debate going on here.
S60 T5's dont come in the aqua colour like Volvokids (my favourite colour of the 'R's)
The R is designed to be Volvo's High Performance model so will need pampering like many high performance cars do, including the service cost to suit.
The T5 on the other hand is like the everyday guys performance car (no offence intended). Reliable, quick enough to put a smile on your face but it isn't a race car

[LiamT4]

As an everyday car i'd have the 2.4 t5, i'v just read about too many issues with the R where as the T5 seems pretty much bullet proof. As a second car though, i'd go for the R.

Although saying that, now i'v seen how cheap you can get an s-type R, i'd have one of those and damn the running costs!! lol

[Jimmie]

Do you guys believe everything you read?

[LeeT5]

Do you guys believe everything you read?

Meaning?

[M-R-P]

For all the slagging-off I give the R, I would love to own one, a manual V70R in black to be precise. BUT the potential for massive running costs is far too high. My T5 has cost me over £3k in the last 16 months. It could have cost me even more if I used Volvo to do the work (nearly double). Just imagine the cost if I'd had that sort of luck with an R... Brakes, shocks, clutch, DIM, wishbones, track rods...

Enjoy your Rs lads

[Harvey]

For all the slagging-off I give the R, I would love to own one, a manual V70R in black to be precise. BUT the potential for massive running costs is far too high. My T5 has cost me over £3k in the last 16 months. It could have cost me even more if I used Volvo to do the work (nearly double). Just imagine the cost if I'd had that sort of luck with an R... Brakes, shocks, clutch, DIM, wishbones, track rods...

Enjoy your Rs lads

We R enjoying ours R's Thanks

[LiamT4]

Do you guys believe everything you read?

Actually, i should have said read and heard about as one of the blokes who runs my local volvo independent garage has one and as much as he loves it, even he says they are one of volvo more unreliable cars.