WHP Rolling Road Leader Board?

**T5frankie** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 21:52

not one manufacturer quotes whp figures, pointless having two tables virtually the same imo

**LiamT4** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 21:57

Originally Posted by t5frankie

not one manufacturer quotes whp figures, pointless having two tables virtually the same imo

They measure the power direct, on an engine dyno and they wouldn't give out whp anyway as the higher bhp figure looks better.

**T5frankie** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 21:59

Originally Posted by LiamT4

They measure the power direct, on an engine dyno and they wouldn't give out whp anyway as the higher bhp figure looks better.

yeah and alot harder to compare it to other cars' figures if we use whp

**LiamT4** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 22:05

Originally Posted by t5frankie

yeah and alot harder to compare it to other cars' figures if we use whp

Why is that? Its whp that moves the car.

Won't reply for a bit mate, just watching match of the day ;-)

**T5frankie** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 22:10

Originally Posted by LiamT4

Why is that? Its whp that moves the car.

Won't reply for a bit mate, just watching match of the day ;-)

not everyone understands those figures, merc is just trying to get further up the leaderboard lol

**AndysR** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 22:14

In fairness the wheel hp figures are the most relevant as they're the ones which are going to propel the car along. The flywheel power is a pub talk figure which doesn't give any real gauge on performance only really a figure used to sell a car.

**smithy** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 22:33

Originally Posted by AndysR

In fairness the wheel hp figures are the most relevant as they're the ones which are going to propel the car along. The flywheel power is a pub talk figure which doesn't give any real gauge on performance only really a figure used to sell a car.

i agree but i get slated for it when i mentioned it lol.and it would nice to see the max rpm too.

**bubba_1986** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 22:22

Originally Posted by LiamT4

Why is that? Its whp that moves the car.

Won't reply for a bit mate, just watching match of the day ;-)

was my understanding that it was the torque that produce the moving force. Power is a factor of torque (lb/ft) x rpm/5252

our engines in general produce massive amounts of toque and personally this is where i find them unique and most interesting.

**LiamT4** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 22:32

Originally Posted by t5frankie

not everyone understands those figures, merc is just trying to get further up the leaderboard lol

Obviously, the way the manufacturers do it, is the best as thats the actual engine power, no calculation needed to work out anything. But its a bit tricky for us to do it like that. lol

Originally Posted by bubba_1986

was my understanding that it was the torque that produce the moving force. Power is a factor of torque (lb/ft) x rpm/5252

our engines in general produce massive amounts of toque and personally this is where i find them unique and most interesting.

What i mean, is that its the power at the wheels that moves the car down the road, be that torque hp or whatever.

**bubba_1986** · Sunday 26th February 2012, 22:40

Originally Posted by LiamT4

Obviously, the way the manufacturers do it, is the best as thats the actual engine power, no calculation needed to work out anything. But its a bit tricky for us to do it like that. lol

What i mean, is that its the power at the wheels that moves the car down the road, be that torque hp or whatever.

Fair doo's mate, sorry had a few and argued with my mate recently who just turbo charged his 98 jdm interga. to be fair it goes like §§§§ off a shovel. I kept telling him it was the torque and all he cared about was power. You should have seen the look on his face when he mention the max power to the tuner and the tuners words were " you are not interested in max power, you are interested in a nice even band of torque" it was priceless lol.

sorry just been on a roll