letting the hot air out

[chewy]

Ok so your not a chav and you want your car to go faster (or look better?), just get it remapped. It'll do far more than raising your bonnet ever will.

[dangerstevie]

Redbaron, keep making the lightweight panels and raise your bonnet if you like it, at the end of the day its your car and if you like it thats all that matters. The lightweight panels are a very very nice touch if made in carbon, good if in fibreglass, either way its a very good way of showing off your skills and workmanship with body work. Keep it up mate. Even tho the bonnet raising doesn't help cooling.

[zoomungus]

full moon.......................!

[nathT5]

Redbaron, keep making the lightweight panels and raise your bonnet if you like it, at the end of the day its your car and if you like it thats all that matters. The lightweight panels are a very very nice touch if made in carbon, good if in fibreglass, either way its a very good way of showing off your skills and workmanship with body work. Keep it up mate. Even tho the bonnet raising doesn't help cooling.

well said.

is,nt this supposed to be a "performance" volvo site? it surely should be about modifying.
anyway these are not the best cars in standard trim and benefit from tuning.
like ive said before "its good to be different" i dont want mine to be the same as everyone elses.

so does that label me a chav?....

[Mrsmopp]

well said.

is,nt this supposed to be a "performance" volvo site? it surely should be about modifying.
anyway these are not the best cars in standard trim and benefit from tuning.
like ive said before "its good to be different" i dont want mine to be the same as everyone elses.

so does that label me a chav?....

There is a HUGE difference between Performance and Modifying

And as I have said before its really NOT good to be different (thats the line every barry boy in the land uses - see barryboys.co.uk for clarification) - its a Volvo pure and simple, it will NEVER be anything else accept it and drive it for what it is

[volvokid]

well said.

is,nt this supposed to be a "performance" volvo site? it surely should be about modifying.
anyway these are not the best cars in standard trim and benefit from tuning.
like ive said before "its good to be different" i dont want mine to be the same as everyone elses.

so does that label me a chav?....

Hell no the 850 was no act of perfection on the handling side of things but as to modding there are certain things that look naff such as the bonnet thing it looks like the car has been in a smash or something but its not my car at the end of the day and i'm sure there are people that think my car is . You have to remeber you are in a big family car not a little puddle jumper. I would hate to see these cars turn out the way old vectra's and mondeo's have

[nathT5]

i know its a volvo estate but i want mine to look different to the average old blokes lab-carrier.
also, i would,nt class a standard 850 T5 as a "performance" car anyway.
mines been tastefully "modified" to make it handle, stop, sound and look better.

if thats wrong i think i,m on the wrong site

[Mrsmopp]

In fairness Nath you dont actually have anything distasateful on your car and modifying the car to handle, stop and perform better is never in question

[volvokid]

i know its a volvo estate but i want mine to look different to the average old blokes lab-carrier.
also, i would,nt class a standard 850 T5 as a "performance" car anyway.
mines been tastefully "modified" to make it handle, stop, sound and look better.

if thats wrong i think i,m on the wrong site

In its day it was a performance car but there all atleast 12 years old now there wasnt that much that could touch them.

[nathT5]

I would hate to see these cars turn out the way old vectra's and mondeo's have

i,m sorry but thats where they ARE heading.
at under a grand they are now the ultimate council estate ferrari.

[volvokid]

Yeah i know that and its something i hate to see. Nath i grew up with them being my dream car and people really dont have the respect for them that they deserve

[nathT5]

Yeah i know that and its something i hate to see. Nath i grew up with them being my dream car and people really dont have the respect for them that they deserve

its the same with my passion, alfa romeo.
i grew up always wanting a 155 since i,d watched them touring car racing, ive now had 5.
but most are now just battered cheap run-arounds that sell between £200-£800, makes me sad.
although the older 75 i have now is respected as a classic and the value and status has gone up.

hopefully the best T5,s will gain the "classic status" they deserve one day

[DerbyT4]

Simple way to test the behavior of the air with a raised bonnet is to open a tilt sunroof and release a peace of paper near the opening. Surely the air under the bonnet would be sucked out the back of the bonnet if it was lifted, much in the same way as fag smoke is sucked out the window if wound down by about an inch or two when in motion?

Unless you're running a turbo the size of a football at high engine speeds then can't see much benefit from it, certainly not for aesthetics lol.

Just another quick question as well (purely for personal interest), how many people dreamed of owning a volvo when they were growing up or in the running up to their 17th birthday? I know i certainly didn't , I was drawn to them with the fact that i could have 200bhp for £400, 50p a horsey, bargain! Lovely car too, not what you'd call a performance car but can be if you want.

My point being you don't buy / modify a car so other people like it, you do it for your own satisfaction, my personal ambition would be to tune mine to 600bhp+, purely for the fact that it wouldn't be as common as a scooby etc. Then once completed it'd be boring and i'd have to sell it and buy a new toy / project, unfortunately though, I'm not rich so they remain dreams.

[waynegts]

forgot to mension that if i put my hand at the back of my bonnet on my skyline you can feel the heat coming out the bay, also you can see the heat rising after giving it some, it does have a massive top mount turbo tho

[dangerstevie]

The back of the bonnet wont act like your sunroof unless you can replicate the airflow arriving at it to be the same as that hitting the base of the windscreen and also put a big airdam the same size and angle as your windscreen just behind it.

The T5's are so cheap now they will become like the ST24 mondeos and the likes. Also with the engine characteristics of the 850 T5 i certainly would not class it as a performance car. A fast mile eater......yes but a performance car.....no. If branded a performance car it would be competing with the likes of the R33 skyline GTST, nissan sylvia S14a (200sx), EVO 5 etc etc etc. And its not going to be in that league of perofrmance and drivability unless you are spending LOTS of money on it, and then its still front wheel drive.

[JUDGENINJA]

ok..... So could some one explain how the vents in a Ford RS Cosworth..... Do we need to consider fitting a lip at the top end of the bonnet to generate some up lift sucking action......?

I've done a P fandango and already removed the lower lip for the rear bonnent seal, but I've also generated a 100% increase in front grille, so more litres in whilst moving' has to go somewhere.

I'm actually thinking that raising the bonnet might lower the friction co-effient making it slight more aero dynamic than the brick shape that it is....

[volvokid]

The back of the bonnet wont act like your sunroof unless you can replicate the airflow arriving at it to be the same as that hitting the base of the windscreen and also put a big airdam the same size and angle as your windscreen just behind it.

The T5's are so cheap now they will become like the ST24 mondeos and the likes. Also with the engine characteristics of the 850 T5 i certainly would not class it as a performance car. A fast mile eater......yes but a performance car.....no. If branded a performance car it would be competing with the likes of the R33 skyline GTST, nissan sylvia S14a (200sx), EVO 5 etc etc etc. And its not going to be in that league of perofrmance and drivability unless you are spending LOTS of money on it, and then its still front wheel drive.

Well ok my dads old T5 isn’t exactly standard but all its had done is an MBC and a remap that was done back in 1999 so its not exactly heavily tuned, here are a few cars it has beaten Accord Type-R, Boxster S, M3 Evo, 55 plate Impreza WRX Sti what ever style (even) and a 300Z twin turbo (even) now these were on the road and I hope you would agree they are performance cars and surely at least one of them could drive to a higher standard than I can, but when taking it round Knockhill I was even more surprised round the corners it was bad but its 12 year old suspension has seen better days but take it onto the straights and there were a few surprised faces even the man on the radio commented on it.
These are just some of the fun experiences I and my dad have had in his T5 over the years IMO I would class it as a performance car and hae its a dam Volvo estate .

[LesRED850R]

There is a HUGE difference between Performance and Modifying

And as I have said before its really NOT good to be different (thats the line every barry boy in the land uses - see barryboys.co.uk for clarification) - its a Volvo pure and simple, it will NEVER be anything else accept it and drive it for what it is

READ - " boring " .

[nathT5]

Well ok my dads old T5 isn’t exactly standard but all its had done is an MBC and a remap that was done back in 1999 so its not exactly heavily tuned, here are a few cars it has beaten Accord Type-R, Boxster S, M3 Evo, 55 plate Impreza WRX Sti what ever style (even) and a 300Z twin turbo (even) now these were on the road and I hope you would agree they are performance cars and surely at least one of them could drive to a higher standard than I can, but when taking it round Knockhill I was even more surprised round the corners it was bad but its 12 year old suspension has seen better days but take it onto the straights and there were a few surprised faces even the man on the radio commented on it.
These are just some of the fun experiences I and my dad have had in his T5 over the years IMO I would class it as a performance car and hae its a dam Volvo estate .

did the trackday t5 have standard suspension? if not, what?
and what did it handle like on track? understeery or tail happy?
ive done more trackdays than i can remember and know most good road cars are crap on track.
theres nothing better than a 120mph 4-wheel drift down the craners at donington.
i might just do a day in mine to see how it goes and if its worth taking further.

btw, ive raised bonnets and removed underbonnet soundproofing and seals in the past.
my theory was, hot air rises so by lifting the rear edge it has somewhere to go.
it wont alter intake temps but will be better on the engine, electrics and fluid temps, it seemed to work...

[dangerstevie]

http://autospeed.com/cms/A_2162/printArticle.html

Please see this page for a fantastic description of what i mean, for those that could not accept what i am saying.

Also the cosworth bonnet vents work very well because they are in a low pressure area on the bonnet (ie the middle) and as we all know from what i have said previously air will only flow across a negative pressure differential - from a high pressure to a low pressure, hence why the cosworth ones work very well and why raising the bonnet doesn't work, probably inhibits cooling abd is generally poo. Even tho it can look cool. (I had my mini turbo done at one point long ago in the past)