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    Anyone with the D5 (or other diesel) fitted the Torque Mount with the Powerflex Bush?

    I've been reading on the Swedespeed forum about the benefits of the Torque Mount Insert provided by Powerflex. However they all seem to own petrol engines. Has anyone with a diesel tried the mod?

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    Here's a picture of the insert in place.

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    How about an introduce yourself thread with some pics of the D5...

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    Come on guys, it only needed one warning, remember the OP is trying to seek information and opinions here.

    Mr Tyler Durden (great name btw) is there a reason you are considering moving away from Volvo OE bushes? (Handling / Feel / Because the old ones need replacing and these are yellow?)

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    As OP is from Shrewsbury, it might be a good idea to come along to our next volvo meet at the Smoke Stop in Ford, that way you can have a chat and maby try out some cars. keep an eye out on the meetings section , and for what it's worth, I think polybushing your diesel will rattle your teeth out
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    Quote Originally Posted by claymore View Post
    I think polybushing your diesel will rattle your teeth out
    it did with Bonny, i fitted a Powerflex top mount & that only lasted 2 days before going back to a Volvo rubber bush (& i'm quite tolerant to noise/vibrations)

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    Given that the two main lower engine mounts are Vacuum controlled by the cars ECM at a certain a rpm, fitting a 'stiffer' poly bush would, without doubt, have a detrimental effect on the cabin's vibration at engine speed over 1500rpm. At 1500 + rpm, the two lower main Vacuum controlled bushes become 'less' stiff as there is less vibration. The top engine mount is required to remain pliable otherwise you will suffer excess vibration and cabin noise.
    So, to conclude, it's ok to fit poly bushes of varying stiffness to a petrol car depending on it's use, but very careful consideration needs to be adhered to on Diesel's to maintain a good equilibrium between comfort/performance. Therefore, replacing the top mount with poly IMH is a very bad idea on a diesel.
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    I've changed lower mount and upper big and small and the strut bar and subframe mounts. Mine vibes a bit but around tick over but it's gone at 1000. I quite like it makes the car tingle and feel alive and I get a nice noise from the exhaust at 1,500 rpm then again when booting it.

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    As I said (the first time?), the Polybush on a Diesel can cause vibration but the benefits sometimes outweigh the niggles. A softer powerflex bushing is typically recommended on a Diesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesT5 View Post
    As I said (the first time?), the Polybush on a Diesel can cause vibration but the benefits sometimes outweigh the niggles. A softer powerflex bushing is typically recommended on a Diesel.
    Can you please explain the benefits for us
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    Quote Originally Posted by claymore View Post
    Can you please explain the benefits for us
    Yes certainly. The power delivery seems smoother, the throttle response seems more 'instant' and the car feels generally more stable around the bends and when accelerating. It made a massive difference to the feel of the T5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesT5 View Post
    Yes certainly. The power delivery seems smoother, the throttle response seems more 'instant' and the car feels generally more stable around the bends and when accelerating. It made a massive difference to the feel of the T5.
    Interesting.

    How does fitting poly bushes compare to fitting new standard rubber bushes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesT5 View Post
    Yes certainly. The power delivery seems smoother, the throttle response seems more 'instant' and the car feels generally more stable around the bends and when accelerating. It made a massive difference to the feel of the T5.
    We're not talking about petrol engines, we're talking about diesels
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    As well as avoiding polybushing that top mount on your D5, I would also avoid buying a cheap replacement mount from Ebay, as mine lasted less than a year. Currently, the car sounds utterly dreadful when pulling away or reversing. Sounds as though the engine is falling out!

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    He's still at it and I'm thoroughly pi$$ed of that my completely valid point was removed last night, does anyone on here have experience of the torque bushing pictured at the beginning of this thread ????? and fitted it to a diesel Volvo ????, or are we going to listen to someones limited experience of normal polybushes in suspension arms and engine steadies and as Chris has said new rubber bushes would offer massive improvements over worn items, we need back to back proven informative testing, not someone's biased and unsubstantiated best guess
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    I haven't tried it myself no, but I did read up on the polybush last year before i bought that cheap rubbish mount off Ebay, and the general opinion was not to use the pollys in the diesels as they give off too much vibration in the cabin.
    However, this thread has given me an idea.
    I will try taking up the gap in the mount with some tie wraps, and see if it helps with the horrendous vibrations that I am getting

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    Quote Originally Posted by stutgart69 View Post
    I haven't tried it myself no, but I did read up on the polybush last year before i bought that cheap rubbish mount off Ebay, and the general opinion was not to use the pollys in the diesels as they give off too much vibration in the cabin.
    However, this thread has given me an idea.
    I will try taking up the gap in the mount with some tie wraps, and see if it helps with the horrendous vibrations that I am getting
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    Anno bud. It took me a minute or two to work out what he was on about, but I got there in the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoleT-5R View Post
    He's still at it and I'm thoroughly pi$$ed of that my completely valid point was removed last night, does anyone on here have experience of the torque bushing pictured at the beginning of this thread ????? and fitted it to a diesel Volvo ????, or are we going to listen to someones limited experience of normal polybushes in suspension arms and engine steadies and as Chris has said new rubber bushes would offer massive improvements over worn items, we need back to back proven informative testing, not someone's biased and unsubstantiated best guess
    Not entirely agree with you, but opinions/guessing/limited experience should be made clear by the poster when posting so it can be differentiated from posts containing information from more qualified/experienced posts.

    I removed a whole bunch of posts, pissed you off, my apologies, did any of the posts that I removed actually help answer the OPs query, no they didn't and it was the Op that was more affected by the thread being taken off topic than those that wanted the chance to possibly get a dig in.
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    You might be able to fit the performance ford ones st/rs and alike , I know on the classic x40's you can fit Mitsubishi evo bushes and components, even brakes and FTO brakes will fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S40kieran View Post
    You might be able to fit the performance ford ones st/rs and alike , I know on the classic x40's you can fit Mitsubishi evo bushes and components, even brakes and FTO brakes will fit.
    I believe the Ford Transit connect one is a good upgrade.
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