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    Not in AA. Green Flag. Lee, you do seem to have this not paying much at the Dealer down pat, but I don't really see many others able to replicate your paying a much smaller %age of their fee. I'll stick to the reader and a local garage I trust. I personally just think they are charging the huge amounts to cover big expensive buildings and huge staffing levels, simple maths to cover all that. Does not mean they are better mechanic's, tough they do have access to more specialist tools for the more fiddly / model specific jobs.

    I like the fact I am not paying them anything when I can do a repair for 60 quid, when it could cost over 400 at a dealer!

    Reader is a google away, just search Volvo Vida ebay - loads of people selling. They are in the 55 to 70 quid range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antonys60r View Post
    Over the 7 years I've owned my R 4 different dealers have worked on it and only one of them was any good and that was Ray Chapman in Yorkshire. One dealer who was supposed to he an R specialist fitted the wrong spark plugs.
    Hence I have Vida and no more main dealers.
    Similar experience here with the local dealership. I gave up on them when I was told their master tech would need to have help from an engineer from Volvo Sweden to logon remotely and troubleshoot why the DRL cannot be turned on my R..... went home and 10 mins later viola.....DRL on.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jellison View Post
    Not in AA. Green Flag. Lee, you do seem to have this not paying much at the Dealer down pat, but I don't really see many others able to replicate your paying a much smaller %age of their fee. I'll stick to the reader and a local garage I trust. I personally just think they are charging the huge amounts to cover big expensive buildings and huge staffing levels, simple maths to cover all that. Does not mean they are better mechanic's, tough they do have access to more specialist tools for the more fiddly / model specific jobs.

    I like the fact I am not paying them anything when I can do a repair for 60 quid, when it could cost over 400 at a dealer!

    Reader is a google away, just search Volvo Vida ebay - loads of people selling. They are in the 55 to 70 quid range.
    You wanna know how? I'll tell you how!

    My first Volvo I bought was a 1990(H) 440GLT which I bought from my local dealer for £8000 (trade in).
    Since then I've owned 8 Volvos from 440's, 850's and 2 V70R's (P1 & P2).
    I have remained semi loyal to my local dealer since, only really going there for work requiring software, expensive Hardware/Software and the occasional service for FREE software updates and any work/parts replacement where the cost is less than £500.

    After a year of ownership on my Laser Blue V70R P1, I paid a one off £99 for lifetime ownership into what Lipscomb call the 'Plus 4 club'. It is transferable.

    This entitles me to 25% discount on standard labour rate + 12% off parts. I also get 50% off MOT's . Couple to that my AA BRC, which pays for labour, VAT and parts up to and including £500 of ANY invoice.
    Due to my loyalty with Lipscomb Volvo I have seen, in past invoices, a discount on the labour by as much as 55% and in most cases in and around 33% (Dealer discression).

    So, when I take my car to the Dealer I automatically get a minimum 25% off labour, this brings it down to a paletable £90/h or less, from their standard £120/h. Then the AA pay for any bill, once agreed, up to £500. Anything over that and I cover it.

    As you can see, I therefore get Dealer level service with good Technicians on first name terms, using the correct tools, correct software at a price that most local Indies offer. Don't get me wrong, in some cases it's prevalent for me to have the work done elsewhere or do it myself, but in most cases I get a good deal and it always pays to stay on the right side of your local Dealer and refrain from jumping on the band wagon, slagging your Dealers off and tarring them with the same brush.
    I have a good rapport with two of the Master Techs and the Workshop manager and I've known one of the Service managers since 1990!
    You never know when you'll need to have a frank conversation with them or when you need that favour!

    Saying they charge extortionate prices to cover the cost of their buildings and staff is frankly ridiculous and a little immature.

    I'll agree with you on one thing though about them not always being better mechanics. We all live and learn, but I'm happy with the guys at my local Dealer and they've never f uck ed anything up of mine. Any minor mistakes have always been promtly put right with an apologie and extra's.
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    Fingers X'd the hesitation is gone. But now (could I have bought a jinxed car), when going on the throttle from idle with all the heating turned off, the heater fan fires up, lift off it stops, ease into it - on, lift off, off.................

    How the hell I am going to put up with one issue after another is beyond me. Last car had nothing electrical in the whole time my father and me had it (bar I think the fly-by-wire accelerator arm needing replaced very early on).

    I can't say this car has provided me with much pleasure yet in just 2.5K mile apart from having a really nice plush cabin.... Turning into a total pain the ass. I have enough sh8t with race cars breaking, don't expect problems from a bog std modern road car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jellison View Post
    Fingers X'd the hesitation is gone. But now (could I have bought a jinxed car), when going on the throttle from idle with all the heating turned off, the heater fan fires up, lift off it stops, ease into it - on, lift off, off.................

    How the hell I am going to put up with one issue after another is beyond me. Last car had nothing electrical in the whole time my father and me had it (bar I think the fly-by-wire accelerator arm needing replaced very early on).

    I can't say this car has provided me with much pleasure yet in just 2.5K mile apart from having a really nice plush cabin.... Turning into a total pain the ass. I have enough sh8t with race cars breaking, don't expect problems from a bog std modern road car.
    At a quick glance I'd say you have an Earth issue. You'll need a wiring diagram.
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    Where to get one of those (?) and is this then an auto electrician job?

    Starting to get tired of the car now - Zero confidence in it, to the point I avoid driving it. Just want a bloody reliable (but nice) fast tow car.

    Popped this up https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showt...47#post2320647
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    Jon . My first thought is the heater fan resistor. These cars will make you love them and hate them in equal measure.

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    Cheers. Yep from my googling I think most likely. Best wait till the Vida turns up (was hoping be here today (at work) but not yet).

    https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showt...70#post2320670 At least found a good guide to getting it out (can't be the fan if that sound perfect it is just that is coming on by itself when on the throttle!

    If this things packs up when used for towing racer I might just have to torch it... God I love old cars - yep they go wrong, but not Rocket science to fix.

    I'm sure it would give me no issues if I didn't drive it!
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    What a complete Moron!! Me that is.............

    The fan stuff was the turbo pipe coming out of the turbo. I was so keen to get the fuel sensor changed out that I did not take the cross brace out to get at the turbo / pipe clamp. Thought I had it on clamping round the both flanges, seems I did not!! And it blew off on the way home........... No power and Bigggg whooshing (with the window down) and about 70bhp.

    But I do now know everything about changing out a heater fan and resistor!

    Been a bad few weeks, my rebuilt V8 race engine has to come apart again - grrrrrr, ran a red light with trailer on way to last race, fine or a safety awareness letter when in tonite and then the worry about the above. Feel sooo much better now. Wine o'clock now
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    Quote Originally Posted by jellison View Post
    Fingers X'd the hesitation is gone. But now (could I have bought a jinxed car), when going on the throttle from idle with all the heating turned off, the heater fan fires up, lift off it stops, ease into it - on, lift off, off.................

    How the hell I am going to put up with one issue after another is beyond me. Last car had nothing electrical in the whole time my father and me had it (bar I think the fly-by-wire accelerator arm needing replaced very early on).

    I can't say this car has provided me with much pleasure yet in just 2.5K mile apart from having a really nice plush cabin.... Turning into a total pain the ass. I have enough sh8t with race cars breaking, don't expect problems from a bog std modern road car.
    Quote Originally Posted by jellison View Post
    What a complete Moron!! Me that is.............

    The fan stuff was the turbo pipe coming out of the turbo. I was so keen to get the fuel sensor changed out that I did not take the cross brace out to get at the turbo / pipe clamp. Thought I had it on clamping round the both flanges, seems I did not!! And it blew off on the way home........... No power and Bigggg whooshing (with the window down) and about 70bhp.

    But I do now know everything about changing out a heater fan and resistor!

    Been a bad few weeks, my rebuilt V8 race engine has to come apart again - grrrrrr, ran a red light with trailer on way to last race, fine or a safety awareness letter when in tonite and then the worry about the above. Feel sooo much better now. Wine o'clock now
    How on earth can you confuse an interior Fan with an external boost leak?

    Glad it's now sorted.
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    It started very quite and got worse - but yes I see your point!

    But, you would have thought this would be the end of it!

    Was expecting a trouble free drive to go stay with a mate and then watch some racing at Snetterton (I cancelled my entry). All fine (80miles) till Duxford (last Airshow of the year on), pulled over for paracetmol for a headache and wife to then drive it. She starts it up and the bloody engine check light comes back on!

    It is not doing that hesitating now, so presume not the same issue and drove fine the rest of the way.

    But on starting the following day the engine then hunting really badly during that weird start thing these R do, but then once at idle all seemed to drive fine, but check light still on! Vida should be with me today / tomorrow, plus a new cam belt kit.

    I am a bit jittery about this thing as the only time the T5 light came on as went it went into limp mode after 155k miles and then 3 weeks later it was unfortunately laid to rest (after huge expenditure to try to fix - I'll tell that story shortly).... A very sad day
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    I wouldn't worry too much mate. It's not uncommon for one issue to mask another and the point I'm trying to make is that, IF you had read the fault codes prior to discovering the Turbo hose leak, you would of probably had a list of fault codes. So you note them down, try to trouble shoot and fix (In your case, the boost hose was probably obvious to the trained eye ) then you'd have cleared the fault codes and continued road test or just getting on with things, until the next issue.

    Then EML comes on, like it does now! So, armed with your list of fault codes, you re-read the faults and note the codes. Then you'd compare and find that either one or two faults have gone and maybe one other fault code has appeared. Either way, as you fault find and fix then the list of codes will get shorter!

    With the aid of VIDA, you'd be able to properly troubleshoot the fault codes.

    When you get an opportunity, can you post the fault codes here for us ALL to see? This may help others in the future along with your findings.

    As I already mentioned in another post somewhere else, it may be prudent to get a smoke leak test done on your car as this will likely expose a few leaks and save you many weeks or months chasing your tail.
    If you think your car drives nicely now, you wait until you've fixed the issues, then you'll really feel the difference!
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    Smoke leak test? Never heard of that.

    Yep once the Vida is loaded (have to get it running on Win 8 - have the URL doc on that - if not I'll get an old Win7 pc just for this). Yep will write down codes and let you guys know and hopefully work through.

    Only one at Anthony's was the fuel pressure sensor. I can only think another will now be there (the odd hunting on start up).

    Car drive OK now. Not a patch on the old T5. Hoping it will get to that level (i.e. just like any car you jump into and everything works in a very smooth and fuss free way. Only one felt like it had a proper cable going to the engine to run the MAF / ECU, this one somehow feels more like when you are using the throttle, you can feel the "brain" actually working out every minute movement of the pedal, not natural (don't get me wrong it is fine), just needs to be utterly smooth and feel like it is a cable down there!

    If only it had a carb! Hopefully Vida waiting at home.

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    Vida - turned up. Will the unit and a cd. Hope this is all I need.

    The manual for these you find online are endless i.e. http://www.autoscaners.ru/data/volvo...Help-en-GB.pdf did look easy when Anthony plugged in his to my R. Hopefully straight forward. Mind the depth of some of this stuff is mind boggling, hopefully it is all obvious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jellison View Post
    Vida - turned up. Will the unit and a cd. Hope this is all I need.

    The manual for these you find online are endless i.e. http://www.autoscaners.ru/data/volvo...Help-en-GB.pdf did look easy when Anthony plugged in his to my R. Hopefully straight forward. Mind the depth of some of this stuff is mind boggling, hopefully it is all obvious!
    If you need help with VIDA, pm me and I'll walk you through it.

    I'm certain you'll struggle with it at first. Make sure your laptop has auto updates disabled otherwise it can cause havok with your VIDA and stop it from working. Once installed and working never allow it to update or download any web page updates!! Just dont connect it to Wifi or Ethernet.
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    Vida is not too bad to use. It's quite logical really . As lee said and I said to you when you came round. No updates on the laptop after Vida is installed and you'll be fine. The laptop I use is solely for the car and nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonys60r View Post
    Vida is not too bad to use. It's quite logical really . As lee said and I said to you when you came round. No updates on the laptop after Vida is installed and you'll be fine. The laptop I use is solely for the car and nothing else.
    Cheers Anthony. Just trying on the Win 8 pc. Absolutely zero chance. On the setup page it very quickly come up with a warning that says a bunch of stuff not found (as Win8 ) and will not continue to install!

    I'll get on ebay tonite / tomorrow and look for a refurb laptop (did a google last week as thought this might be the case), 40-50 quid should get me a suitable one.

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    That's exactly what I did regards the laptop. Vida can be a little fussy with the install. V8 in the griff now that's an engine . Can't beat the sound of a v8 !

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    I never managed to get Vida installed on XP, had an error about some particular file missing, which I think was to do with the OS ratger than Vida. Started rebuilding the laptop from scratch to try again but never saw it through and both laptop and Dice have been gathering dust since! So will be interesting to see how it goes. I really must set aside some time to try it again.
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    My laptop for Vida runs on xp . I had to completely wipe it and reinstall xp. After that Vida installed perfectly 1st time . If anything is not spot on then Vida won't install.


 

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