How strong is the 5spd auto?

**Doingitsideways** · Tuesday 18th October 2016, 12:42

Originally Posted by p fandango

its a Volvo forum, we all have

**stribo** · Tuesday 18th October 2016, 13:11

Originally Posted by Doingitsideways

I drove a tank once.

Great fun.

What gearbox did it have?

**Doingitsideways** · Tuesday 18th October 2016, 14:05

Originally Posted by stribo

What gearbox did it have?

Two levers and a pedal!

Don't think even the 6spd auto could handle the sixteen litre diesel

**jamesy12345** · Tuesday 18th October 2016, 14:35

Originally Posted by Doingitsideways

Two levers and a pedal!

Don't think even the 6spd auto could handle the sixteen litre diesel

4-speed would be fine for that application, with some Carlube ATF-U in it (that was the last stuff in the Black Shark)

**Ettienne** · Tuesday 18th October 2016, 17:53

Originally Posted by Doingitsideways

I drove a tank once.

Great fun.

Yep and looking forward to bovingdon tank museum meet, should be a laugh

**Johnboy78** · Sunday 13th November 2016, 15:42

Hi guys ,I know its a 5 so auto thread ,but out of interest how strong is the 4spd auto in p1 c70 ? I have noticed it can be quite slow to change and is not bad but way less smooth than I feel it should be ,the oil level is spot on and doesn't appear Burnt or dark in colour ,I have no idea the last time it was changed,do u think a flush and filter change will smothen it up ,as comparison ii had an old Toyota avensis auto daily driver and was smooth as silk for an old 4sp auto car is at 132k so after previous tribulations with rack brakes etc the last thing I expected is box trouble ,as previous I'm determined to persevere with it any help much appreciated thanks john

**Doingitsideways** · Tuesday 15th November 2016, 02:49

C70 should have the 5spd, no?

If you have E/S/W buttons on the shifter surround it's a 4spd.
Just W it's a 5.

From experience, the old 4spd is pretty damned strong.
Mine in the S70 has stood up to loads of abuse with knocking on for 300bhp, plenty of hard launches up the 1/4 mile too.

As for fluid changes, if it's the 5spd you have, then I wouldn't be surprised if it's never been done.
From memory, they're supposed to be a sealed for life thing so don't require it.
Reality is though that that's bo11ocks.
If you change it, make sure you get the right ATF though, they're quite sensitive to the right stuff.
Do a bit of research on replacing it in stages, there's loads of info about.

Interestingly, it could actually be the same gearbox as the Avensis as they're made by Toyota.
Volvo map the boxes to hold onto lower gears and change up later until the engine warms up. Don't know if yours gets any better when warm.

**Johnboy78** · Tuesday 15th November 2016, 17:00

Hi mate ,everyday is as a school day as they say ,it does only have "w "around the shifter ,I may have interpreted it wrong mate,I thougjt going by the handbook the shifter that has 1/2/3/D was a 4sp?but Im shure I've heard it shift 4 times which would be a 5 speed ,when cold and fans etc switched of you can here the mechanical noise of it working ,but would say its still a pronounced change between top and going down to second top I think I may be looking for something that's not there after the trouble I've had so far with the car ,I'm maybe unfairly comparing it with the Toyota ,they we're both the same age ,I did read some whare it was made by Japanese co,is there an area on the forum that goes more into gearboxes ? Thanks for suggestions john

**Doingitsideways** · Tuesday 15th November 2016, 22:21

Not on here really Fella.

Even the 4spd gives the impression of 5 gears, when the torque converter locks in shortly after the change to 4th.
Not sure if the 5spd does something similar. I don't drive the C70 often enough to notice.

**MoleT-5R** · Wednesday 16th November 2016, 00:08

Ooh auto's done then a few times but really miss them on a lazy weekend, my v70r's 5spd auto is just going tit's up so m66awd is next in..

**Johnboy78** · Wednesday 16th November 2016, 19:14

Hi doing it sideways ,that's what it could be totally forgot about that thanks ,would the torque converter locking in be more pronounced than say a shift ? Can I ask your first name rather than doing it sideways,or do you prefer that ? Hope you don't mind me asking

**Doingitsideways** · Wednesday 16th November 2016, 19:45

The name's Steve.

Yeah, the lock up can be quite pronounced.
On the 4spd it does it very shortly after changing up to 4th.
Not sure on the 5spd which I'm pretty much convinced you have.

**jamesy12345** · Wednesday 16th November 2016, 20:13

Rumour is he prefers it sideways

Bit of info below, including about lock up, on the 4-speed
https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/tech/se...sDiagnosis.pdf

Back on topic, if it's a 5-speed wouldn't it have L-3-4-D on the shifter surround, like this one..
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...ice-asc&page=2

**LiamT4** · Wednesday 16th November 2016, 21:33

Originally Posted by jamesy12345

Rumour is he prefers it sideways

Bit of info below, including about lock up, on the 4-speed
https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/tech/se...sDiagnosis.pdf

Back on topic, if it's a 5-speed wouldn't it have L-3-4-D on the shifter surround, like this one..
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...ice-asc&page=2

Thats how my 5spd auto is L-3-4-D.

What year is the c70 in question?

**Johnboy78** · Thursday 17th November 2016, 22:05

Hi Steve jamsey, liam,that's pretty much what it does m8 top gear then a pronounced change ,jamsey,thanks for the link will read later, I supose each man to his own prefrance lol ,liam the car is a "w" 2000 ,2.0 lpt, shifter has l,2,3,D, sorry if I've veered of to topic