Does anyone know if the angle gear is the same in a S60R, and a XC90 2.5T, both manual? My thinking is, if they're the same, I might buy a spare, and recondition it, just in case.
Does anyone know if the angle gear is the same in a S60R, and a XC90 2.5T, both manual? My thinking is, if they're the same, I might buy a spare, and recondition it, just in case.
I believe it is the same as the XC90 (collar gears are the same so cant image the angle gear being different).
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stribo (Saturday 7th November 2015)
Best thing to do is get underneath and have a look. Some angle gears had a chain drive unit attached, there are that many different versions. They did a strengthened version too.
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2004 Sapphire Black S60 D5 - The new daily hack.
also it will require the same drive ratio as the rear axle, if you are building it as a swap in unit should anything go wrong with the existing unit iirc
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Are they not all 1:1 ratio?
yes in theory when with the matching rear axle. so if for example the rear axle is 3.31:1 then the angle gear needs to match it but in reverse so 1 input turn gives 3.31 output to rear diff, thus in reality at the angle gear input 1 turn will give turn a the rear axle so a theoretical 1:1 overall. If I'm wrong in this thinking please shoot me now, but that is how I understand it, Dangerous Dave will be along in a minute if I'm wrong with a proper explaination
Current Volvo's 1995 854 Gul T-5R 1996 855 Olive T-5R 1997 855 Olive AWD 1999 V70R AWD and 2005 XC90 D5 AWD
Previous Volvo's 1987 745 gle 1989 745 GL 1995 855 Olive GLE 2001 V70 p2
My Ebay Items http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/quik.connection
1996 Olive Green 850 AWD - Follow the Project - Forged rods, 19T, big blue injectors, 960 TB, 3.25" MAF, Ostrich, 608 binary, arduino data display, active exhaust control with Focus RS tips, 320mm front brake conversion.
1996 Nautic Blue 850 AWD - Failed its MOT, now it's a donor for the green thing.
2004 Sapphire Black S60 D5 - The new daily hack.
Current Volvo's 1995 854 Gul T-5R 1996 855 Olive T-5R 1997 855 Olive AWD 1999 V70R AWD and 2005 XC90 D5 AWD
Previous Volvo's 1987 745 gle 1989 745 GL 1995 855 Olive GLE 2001 V70 p2
My Ebay Items http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/quik.connection
Biff (Saturday 7th November 2015)
I've got a spare one in the workshop I'll check later if your wanting to know
stribo (Saturday 7th November 2015)
My understanding is, the front and rear diff are matched, and the angle gear is 1:1, just to turn the transverse output from the gearbox, to the longitudinal drive to the propshaft.
Nope, fraid not.
Early ones were 3.31:1 to match the final drive ratio of the diff (which was inherited/modded from the 900 series). If you check my build thread (in my sig) I've got my angle gear dismantled and you can see the difference in the gears.
Think the later ones were changed to 2.78:1 (I'll have to dig out the data to check that and what year they changed)
The front diff works seperately to the rear diff, think of it as the angle gear is added (bodged on LOL) to the drivetrain after the front diff, so you need an overall 1:1 ratio through the angle gear and rear diff.
Bloody mind flock
1996 Olive Green 850 AWD - Follow the Project - Forged rods, 19T, big blue injectors, 960 TB, 3.25" MAF, Ostrich, 608 binary, arduino data display, active exhaust control with Focus RS tips, 320mm front brake conversion.
1996 Nautic Blue 850 AWD - Failed its MOT, now it's a donor for the green thing.
2004 Sapphire Black S60 D5 - The new daily hack.
nope the front diff makes no real difference to what happens at the rear (they still work in sync with each other), this thinking is what has kept my v70r awd off the road for so long as I got it into my head that the box I bought didn't match the rear diff, but in the end that makes no difference as long as the angle gear and rear diff are matched......kicking myself as she could have been back on the road ages ago.......
Current Volvo's 1995 854 Gul T-5R 1996 855 Olive T-5R 1997 855 Olive AWD 1999 V70R AWD and 2005 XC90 D5 AWD
Previous Volvo's 1987 745 gle 1989 745 GL 1995 855 Olive GLE 2001 V70 p2
My Ebay Items http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/quik.connection
I appreciate that, what I meant was I thought the front and rear diffs were both the same ratio, therefore the angle gear only needed to be 1:1.Originally Posted by MoleT-5R;790295[COLOR="#FF0000"
nope that is where i went wrong, front gearbox can be any you fancy, but angle gear and rear diff ratios have to match...simples when put like that...took me a while to get my head around it, thus why the V70R awd got put on the back burner for so long, but will be returning in 2016 sporting a manual six speed awd box
Current Volvo's 1995 854 Gul T-5R 1996 855 Olive T-5R 1997 855 Olive AWD 1999 V70R AWD and 2005 XC90 D5 AWD
Previous Volvo's 1987 745 gle 1989 745 GL 1995 855 Olive GLE 2001 V70 p2
My Ebay Items http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/quik.connection
Think this link shows what goes on inside it.
http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthr...on-for-failure
That one is a later model with different/stronger bracing cast into the casing compared to the early ones
This is what happened to Husseins (lookforjoe from VS) looks like an earlier model of angle gear
And the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiyZvgbAElw
Last edited by Dangerous Dave; Saturday 7th November 2015 at 23:07.
1996 Olive Green 850 AWD - Follow the Project - Forged rods, 19T, big blue injectors, 960 TB, 3.25" MAF, Ostrich, 608 binary, arduino data display, active exhaust control with Focus RS tips, 320mm front brake conversion.
1996 Nautic Blue 850 AWD - Failed its MOT, now it's a donor for the green thing.
2004 Sapphire Black S60 D5 - The new daily hack.
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;790276]That one is a later model with different/stronger bracing cast into the casing compared to the early ones
This is what happened to Husseins (lookforjoe from VS) looks like an earlier model of angle gear
Had about 500 odd bhp didn't? Not surprised it did go, I know they break if launched lots but I'm guessing his power upgrades didn't help.
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