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    First thing id like to do is get a cone filter on it for some noise and ditch the dump valve. Then swap the front wheel back for a columba so I have a full set on the car.

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    He passed. Just about. So time to tax it

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    Had its first soapy wash




    It has alot of black overspray and a couple of dents, but no rust. Still need to swap that wheel over.
    Took the dump valve off and blocked the hole, got a filter on it. It feels much nicer and sounds better already.

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    Its still got this starting issue so I tried to start it with easy start. It fired up straight away. So its a fuel delivery issue.
    I rigged up a pressure gauge and I got 40 psi on ignition, eventually after about 5 seconds. But that stayed there when I started it, only going up to 45 when I blip the throttle.
    Is this typically correct or do I indeed have a pressure issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkysparks View Post
    Its still got this starting issue so I tried to start it with easy start. It fired up straight away. So its a fuel delivery issue.
    I rigged up a pressure gauge and I got 40 psi on ignition, eventually after about 5 seconds. But that stayed there when I started it, only going up to 45 when I blip the throttle.
    Is this typically correct or do I indeed have a pressure issue?
    That sounds about right to me fella, 3 bar is OK. I don't know if 5 secs to build up to 40 psi is normal but doesn't sound too bad. If you switch on the ignition and wait say 10 secs does it start OK?

    If you are thinking it is fuel delivery, has the filter been changed?

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    It doesn't seem to matter how long its been prepping itself for or how long its been on ignition for it still starts the same way,

    Ive not checked the filter actually, ill check on that.

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    I have a small update.

    I used the car for a road trip up to york and back and it was faultless, comfy and capable.

    Then i set to work on getting the glove box open.
    After some bits snapping and breaking i got it open, to find this:



    No money, no guns, just this and some flyers and CDs.

    Got my tire changed over, so I now have a full set of alloys on the car. They still need painting.



    I also changed the fuel filter today and the old one poured out leaving this stain.



    It was brown and grim. But still didnt cure the starting issue.

    This starting issue is starting to really annoy me now, it has no rhythm to it. Next step is to probe the injectors ans see what theyre doing.
    My guesse is a sensor somewhere, maybe an oil pressure switch is stopping the rest of the components kicking in.

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    What's that note in the glovebox about... along with the Ann Summers debt, very random

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    Looks amazing, it's nice to see another purple 850 as i thought my was the only one. Mines a saloon though.

    On the starting issue mine had the same problem but it started out that if i left it running it would just cut out.

    Turned out to be a the fuel pump relay. Changed it and never had the problem again.

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    Just a thought on the starting issue as its had a engine swap is it worth trying another crank sensor as theres 2 types from memory in the sales ad it stated it had a t5r engine which could have had fitted a early type sensor with your cars later type flywheel i can remember merc85 (gav) had a issue when he swapped hhis engine over

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    Cheers guys. I have bypassed the fuel pump relay to eliminate it and the problem still persists.
    I have also changed the crank sensor for a brand new one. Still the same. Yesterday I used easy start and it tried to catch. Then eventually started ran for about 5 seconds then cut out.

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    In another thread with much help from the forum, it was a fuse not fully home stopping the relay firing up.
    It still has a cranking issue but it is useable again.
    That being said. I got to prove its usefulness this weekend hauling rubble


    Coilovers have been ordered!

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    Im also going to have a look at the rear passenger caliper as when i washed it the other day it sizzled. So thats been getting stuck on. Whilst i have thats off im going to get rid of the chav yellow brakes. Just black for me. Brakes shouldnt been seen in my opinion.

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    Still on the to do list.
    Fix speedo gear.
    Plumb in boost gauge (Im intending to tee off the original in the dash, someone tell me if this is a bad idea)
    Re-black all the blacks, including the wheels.
    Fix remote central locking.
    Cut exhaust before cat for a straight through.
    Sort PVC as it looks to be leaking.
    Remove carbon canister and pipework.

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    Also pic dump for those interested of the nasty connector to the ignition relay. This is now fixed and all lovely where its supposed to be under the cowl.

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    I have made a start on fixing the speedo. Sure enough a snapped planet gear.


    My question I are the kits on ebay the ones I want. Because the picture is not the same.

    Before I took the dash apart I also unplugged the carbon canister valve. I assume that's what this is.
    This in turn made the car a beast! Must be somewhat defective. That will be entirely removed at some point.


    Also I assume that the fragile flexi in the front is the internal boost gauge.
    I'm going to replace that. And the icv has a leak on the main inlet to the throttle body. So that will need addressing too.

    And I have also had a delay on my coilovers. They were sent out with the wrong address and were subsequently sent back to sender...in Germany. So I'm expecting them in the near future now.

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    Nice to see more progress.
    All the little things add up in the end

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    Hello Sparky, if that photo is from the right hand side of the engine near battery then yes the fragile joined pipe leads to the boost gauge - I can verify this as my gauge started reading zero on a journey last week, on closer inspection it was the little rubber joining sleeve that was weak and the pipe had blown out of one side. This was replaced and the pipe reconnected, all good.

    FYI - My internal boost gauge has a white hard pipe that goes across the front bulk head, rather than a black one.

    Tell me more about the location of the charcoal canister (that small black valve shape thing in your photo)? What was the affect when removed, do you know what it does?

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    its an evap valve & they can cause intermittent starting issues....

    I just ditch mine completely!
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    She may not be perfect but i love her anyway....

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    Fantastic. I hoped I could just remove it as i always have before.
    Once unplugged it was obviously not leaking where it shouldnt be and i was hitting some real feeling boost, but i will block off the outlet on the throttle body.
    I shall replace that hose aswell. And tighten the ICV, thats also bound to help with starting aswell.
    Ordered a new set of gears for the speedo, from Hungary.
    Still waiting on coilovers.....


 

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