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    I am actually going to torch this car! URGENT! Update.......I've been an idiot

    I've had enough,

    Of all times for something like this to happen it does it right before a proper important job interview 300 miles away!

    After the AC compressor let go on Sunday I managed to source a replacement today to at least get me down the road and back.

    Done all the work on it had a right struggle to get the belt on, started it up and engine system service required is on, and it's really slow to respond to the throttle! It idles fine, it does Rev but slowly. Change gear and it's forever before any accelerating happens again!

    Pulled fuse 6 and 23, tried again, and engine system service urgent comes up. And no throttle response whatsoever.

    Turn it off, back on, engine system service required comes up. And slow throttle response again.

    Took ETM off and cleaned it out and still the same.

    Only things that were removed or disconected was OTE to intercooler pipe, fan, and AC compressor. Only things that aren't conected now is the AC to pump pipes because they're a different foment and the AC compressor clutch.

    Even when there was no belt everything was running fine, just a dash message about charging system.

    What have I done?, supposed to be setting off tomorrow lunchtime. To get the belt on it was so tight I had to turn the engine over by the power steering pump to "roll" it on, have I done something to the timing?

    This really is dire straights now. Got a feeling this is going to be the end of the suede for me! Gut feeling is telling me it's ETM but it never had any symptoms before and all of a sudden it's started doing this!
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    It sounds like the replacement ac pump is shagged , when mine died I was getting reduced engine performance message, check the pulley on your aircon pump spins freely, back off the s belt tensioner to allow you to spin it by hand.
    Also check you have the s belt on in the correct sequence , if i recall , it is just about possible to get it to go on the wrong way.

    Ps it is impossible to affect the timing by working on the s belt , as long as you havent disturbed the timing belt.
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    You won't have affected the timing, ideally you need to get the codes read.

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    I'll double check the routing. But the compressor spins freely and a lot quiter than the last one.

    Is a new belt supposed to be a really tight fit on these or should it just fall on.

    Not going to be able to get the codes read unfortunately but that's what I'd like to do.

    I did think the timing was a long shot, but I'm clutching at straws now :-(
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    Have you plugged the electrical connector back into the compressor, if not try that.

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    No, I assumed it was just for the clutch as it's only a single wire.

    I'll finish this bit of pizza then go and try it.
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    The P2s are very funny about their electrics.

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    Aaaargh no don't do that. The ac can activate itself on some heater settings without you switching it on . If it does this with no gas in the compressor it will seize the new pump in a few minutes of running.
    If the belt is routed properly and is new it is still pretty tight to get on.
    I just about managed to get mine back on the wrong way before I realised.
    If the pulley on the new pump spins freely your aircon pump is not the problem any more. It's either the belt routing or you have bumped something else while changing the belt.
    It can't be timing if your timing belt cover has not been removed and the old belt has not been ingested by the timing belt. Which would be pretty obvious .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stribo View Post
    The P2s are very funny about their electrics.

    Amen to that. You said it all in one sentence.

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    As long as the heater isn't set on windscreen, the AC won't operate. Also if the car detects low gas pressure the compressor doesn't kick in.
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    That was the mistake I made on the m8 one night at ridiculous mph , and it fried my old ac pump clutch, It was actually glowing red hot when I stopped, I was lucky it didn't set the whole car on fire.

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    Just been out for a spin.

    It's like there's a massive delay in throttle response, it will go up to the redline but doesent roar when it does so. You don't get the dump sound when you come off the throttle.

    Give it beans, change gear, and it feels like you've hit a brick wall.

    When it's sat idling now it occasionally, not quite hunts but there a definite rythmic feeling through the car.

    Checked and double checked everything I touched and can't see anything wrong.

    Martyn I was going to give you a text but thought it was a bit late. Are you down in aberdeen tomorrow?

    Also thinking about going back to the breakers, the 99 p1 V70 i got the pump off had an ETM with a white sticker instead of the yellow like mine has got. So that will be ME7 also won't it?
    Might run down first thing and pull it off and see if that makes a difference
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    Check you havent disturbed the hose to the intercooler, it is pretty close to the ac pump .

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    I did have it off because I did the pump from the top.

    It went back on ok, I've got the IPD silicone boost hoses. Might take it off and get another look at it in the morning. Wasn't all that oily inside the pipes either
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    I swapped mine out from the top too, jeez I had no skin left on my knuckles , what a footery fiddly pain in the ass that was.

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    I took The fan and OTE pipe off and actually found it really easy. I was expecting a load of swearing but changing the compresser went really smoothly....... Just everything that seemed to go to rat £££££! :-/
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    Mine is a V70 2002 and it was a pain in the arris, steering pump had to come off as did the alternator, and the pipework to the intercooler, then it was like a bleedin rubiks cube made of razor wire to manoeuvre the pump up and out. Frickin aircon , nobody needs it in Glasgow .
    Good luck with yours mate , let us know how you get on.

    Ps dont chuck the old compressor without taking it apart first, the mechanism inside it is beautiful , its like the engineering work of a diseased mind lol.
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    I take it is a petrol turbo engine.A new belt can be tight to fit,was on my D5 as well.After cleaning the ETM switch the ignition on and let the ETM to self adapt for about 45 sec,You`ll here the motor moving.Engine service required will come up if there is no gas in the aircon and the fan will kick in after a little while.Possibly MAF has given up also check the one way valves operating poperly.On P2`s you won`t have the power back unless u delete the fault codes.Get the faults read and deleted take it for a spin and if you loose the power or still the same get the new fault codes again.Don`t give up,we r here to help.
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    I'm going to see if I can do anything this morning. Like I say, I've got to head down to Preston at around lunchtime and if it's not sorted it's going. Never once had a car that is fussy about what gets done then is so secretive about what's wrong with it!

    I can live with the warning message just as long as I can get its power back.

    Worst bit is there's no engine light on either! :-/
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