Advise on suspension/brake mods

[LiamT4]

As a good all round shock for a non track car, the koni yellows are supposed to be very good and i've not heard a bad word against them.

[V70 Graham]

People seem to be split 50:50 Koni yellow's or FSD's.....main differences ?

[jamesy12345]

People seem to be split 50:50 Koni yellow's or FSD's.....main differences ?

Discussion on the above question - http://forums.t5d5.org/topic/22112-k...s-or-koni-fsd/

and some sales blurb on the same

http://www.koni.com/car-racing/technology/faq/

It all seems to be saying the Yellows would be a little firmer.

[jdavis]

http://www.dvs.net.au/320conv.html
These and v50 t5 callipers and disks.

Heard good reviews about konis, and BC coilovers, depends really if you want a fast road car or a track car for the road

[Biff]

I've had Koni yellows on various cars & never had a problem with them. So smooth, no crashing & excellent handling even on the softest setting.
As for 302's I think genuine discs & ferrodo ds2500 pads were great for me as I don't hammer my brakes, in all honesty with your captain slow status I feel you could be just paying for the look of the ap's.
Good to see you keeping it mate!
Hope I get to keep mine!

[AcidicDavey]

I'm happy with 302s on my car, yes you can make them fade, I cooked them in the fog and rain through the Welsh Mountains, Steve you are not alone lol
But when you're not driving like a complete tool they're fine. I've got Brembo discs, genuine pads.

Suspension wise I'm running KW V2s and to be honest they're not that great, the ride is a bit bumpy. I've got iPD anti roll bars too which are maybe too stiff.
I wouldn't recommend the setup I've got! ...but then maybe that's just me.

[Ettienne]

302 are rubbish, pad contact area is laughable small, tiny pistons and tiny discs, they overheat quickly and I'd say almost dangerous, especially on fast heavy cars.

I'm temporarily putting 316mm on my olive to get it up and running, I deem those acceptable.

I brake very late, something most people tell me as a passenger, maybe because I raced and rode bikes first, I'd go for the 320s ash dvs set up as it fits under everything and is cheap.

My rear brakes make a lot more breaking force than the 302s.

[Redbrick]

Suspension wise I'm running KW V2s and to be honest they're not that great, the ride is a bit bumpy. I've got iPD anti roll bars too which are maybe too stiff.

Set too low, set too hard? What tyre size are you running? Were they new to you?

[jamesy12345]

Suspension wise I'm running KW V2s and to be honest they're not that great, the ride is a bit bumpy. I've got iPD anti roll bars too which are maybe too stiff.
I wouldn't recommend the setup I've got! ...but then maybe that's just me.

Set too low, set too hard? What tyre size are you running? Were they new to you?

I'd be interested to know the answer to that cos was considering changing my current FSDs to either Bilstein B6/Koni Yellows (eibach springs) or maybe KW coilovers. KWs seemed to be twice the price of anything else...no wish to fit them & not be happy.

Maybe you need them setting up Davey - corner weights, ride height etc. In your area I know John Price can do it

[Biff]

302 are rubbish, pad contact area is laughable small, tiny pistons and tiny discs, they overheat quickly and I'd say almost dangerous, especially on fast heavy cars.

I'm temporarily putting 316mm on my olive to get it up and running, I deem those acceptable.

I brake very late, something most people tell me as a passenger, maybe because I raced and rode bikes first, I'd go for the 320s ash dvs set up as it fits under everything and is cheap.

My rear brakes make a lot more breaking force than the 302s.

You've answered yourself there Steve. You use your brakes hard so they can't cope. My point was I don't tend to stand on my middle peddle & can't see Graham doing it either.
Only time I'd upgrade was if I was using it regular on the track.

[Ettienne]

They are imho barely passable for everyday and I don't track drive and wouldn't have 302s other than awaiting an upgrade, for the cost difference (which is small) the 320s are the best bet by far.

[MIKESC70T5]

They are imho barely passable for everyday and I don't track drive and wouldn't have 302s other than awaiting an upgrade, for the cost difference (which is small) the 320s are the best bet by far.

You need to learn how to drive then

[V70 Graham]

http://www.dvs.net.au/320conv.html
These and v50 t5 callipers and disks.

Link doesn't seem to be working atm

[Ettienne]

I'm doing ok 21 years no accidents thanks.

[Yosser]

In my experience the 302 setup can be perfectly acceptable, even for some track use.

Prior to fitting the AP brakes to the s70r I did several track outings on the 302's without issue.

Pad and fluid choice will have a considerable effect.

I've had downright dangerous standard brakes and I've had excellent standard brakes, pads made the difference.

[Ettienne]

I've used decent fluid, pads, and braided lines, still no happy but obviously things improve, the Gul 855 even had new calipers and hangers.

Volvo upgraded for a reason from 280 / 302 and increased piston size for less power cars that some even weigh less.

Another problem is the servo, very low assistance on the p1s the 940 servo works much better and even that has 320s

Low assistance probably better for track driving though.

P1s are very good cars but old technology ref suspension and brakes.

[V70 Graham]

Pad and fluid choice will have a considerable effect.

Any recommendations.....

[Ettienne]

Even replacing the existing fluid new dot 4 will help as it's something that's often over looked.

I've been using ate super blue

[Yosser]

ATE super blue is what I've used in the past, although it's been discontinued due to eu meddling.

I had success with ebc yellowstuff and ferodo ds2500 but I'm assured the carbotech compounds are far superior.

Ebc redstuff ceramic is singularly the worst braking experience I've ever had.

[Jamest5r]

Link doesn't seem to be working atm

Has used all available bandwidth on the website this month it will be back up beginning of April or contact him via fb