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    Advise on suspension/brake mods

    Right, now I've decided to keep the car I am thinking of upgrading the brakes and suspension and just wanted some advise/recommendations/off topic posts (delete as applicable)

    Suspension wise I currently have stock shocks, god knows how old the fronts are (rears are 3 years old), and cheapish 30mm lowering springs, the ride does 'crash around' a bit and I put this down to worn shocks.
    I have asked a couple of people who have come up with either bc coilovers or Koni FSD's and some Eibach pro springs, I am put off the coilovers however as I'm lead to believe they need to be rebuilt every couple of years and don't really like winter weather.

    As for the brakes I have 280mm disks and standard pads (genuine Volvo) and even I have experienced brake fade after only a few stops from high (70mph officer) speeds.
    As replacements I am looking at the AP Racing set up, any comments, or indeed any alternatives I should think about ?

    As always, thank you for your time.


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    Id probably say new shocks and 302 brakes, for the best cost effectiveness, I think brakes can start getting really costly beyond this? thats the setup I am going for

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    Just been told my brakes may well be 302mm.....they're still pants !


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    302 mm front discs were pretty good on my S70 T5...Steve Sideways says he sees some brake fade with them but I never did. Different driving styles or fluid needing a change maybe. The AP brakes are good of course but maybe over the top just for the road...plus I thought you would need spacers or 7.5J wheels to get 17" wheels over them..?

    My S70R has Koni's & Eibach springs, much more controlled than standard T5 set up and from memory no harsher than standard R suspension. I take it yours doesn't have Nivomats at the back.

    Quality coilovers and AP brakes would be nice but my vote would be 302s and Koni's/Eibach. Changing the fluid & fitting braided lines might be worth it if not done already.

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    For you, koni yellow and eibach lowering springs would be a good combo, but if it was my money id buy the bc's as they are brilliant for the cost, they are adjustable for comfort to hard and if you ever venture onto a track 1/4 mile then its a 10 second job to adjust.

    Brake wise, forget the APs, they ain't much better than the set up I had before. The xc90 set up that is available is cheap and good.just get some decent pads...

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    I agree with above, only go for coilovers if you either intend on giving it a fair bit of stick on track, or want to go really low with your ride height.

    Brakes, the 302s are ok, but I found they faded badly when giving it a lot of stick down a *cough* private country lane, at which point the discs warped pretty badly.
    Could have possibly been because I have no heatshield under my servo, so cooked the fluid. Pretty sure my turbo would have been glowing red hot that day!

    I'm toying with the XC90 set up when funds allow. Looks like a nice conversion

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    Koni yellow's Neal, not the FSD's ? I thought you rated them highly.

    I'm after a better suspension set up than stock but as I'm getting on a bit of comfort would be nice.

    What does the XC90 set up comprise of and any idea on price ?


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    Can i have first dibs please on your APs once you've fitted them.
    Suspension if you want a smooth ride koni fsd with STANDARD springs.
    B6 shocks are a nice option aswell.
    For your self i would buy some new v70r springs 20mm drop.

    Brakes
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    320 mm v50 t5 brake set up
    Or APs but way over kill

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    Quote Originally Posted by t5 pete View Post
    Can i have first dibs please on your APs once you've fitted them
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    Id go with kw 2 suspension, volvo 302 w police spec pads , braided hoses & fresh fluid. Set the front suspension slightly stiffer than standard & it gives the whole car a much more rigid feel under heavy breaking. The kws are a fair chunk of money (twice the cost of bc's) but supposedly very good- I'm getting a set very soon to replace the gaz set up on mine - I've found good suspension (albeit firm) is the key to good brakes & unless you thrash it's around a track(hopefully not with that lovely paintwork) you'll never notice any breakfade with a good 302 set up on fast roads.

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    Perhaps it's just me.
    I did manage to cook the brakes on my S80 T6 also, different private country lane that time, but same lunatic behind the wheel.
    Not sure what they run as standard, 320s maybe? Either way they're really good until you find yourself ploughing over a private T junction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by V70 Graham View Post
    Koni yellow's Neal, not the FSD's ? I thought you rated them highly.

    I'm after a better suspension set up than stock but as I'm getting on a bit of comfort would be nice.

    What does the XC90 set up comprise of and any idea on price ?
    i did rate them highly for comfort mate, and even though they are not designed for lowering springs the ride was excellent, and body control was much improved over standard. it was just suggested to me once id fitted the FSDs that Koni Yellow would be more suitable, as they are designed to go with lowering springs.

    This is what Andy has on his R.

    The XC90 set up has just been completed by Stephen Evans on his fake R diseasel

    http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthre...ht=xc90+brakes

    Its pretty much the same setup as i used to run, now being run by Pete, they have just upgraded the parts.

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    Doesn't look like it will fit P1's


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    I've got yellow on eibachs on the 855r and had them previously on another 855r, very good indeed

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    Nope the xc90 with not fit what so ever it's the v50 t5 320 mm x25mm kit that will fit and ash dvs sells adapters

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    AP's are way over the top for most road driving, but they look damn good.
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    Get a P2R, adjustable suspension, and big brakes as standard.

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    The gul is on b6s and lesjford springs, pretty good also but I think the koni yellows are better

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    I thought the Ap's were awesome on my 850R, also Koni's for shocks

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    I had fsd's and eibachs on my old t5r along with 18" pegs and the ride was fine. As for brakes, a big brake kit makes a massive difference plus they look good lol. I went for the porsche option on my old C70 which came in a lot cheaper than an AP kit.

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