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    Car Service and Clunking in 1st to 2nd gear change

    Car goes in for 12k service Friday, into volvo, and clunking sound on gear changes 1st to 2nd now becoming more pronounced so will get them to have a look, don't know what it is, clutch seems fine, gear box is good, drives fine and all seems ok just this darn knocking sound on gear changes?...

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    One or both of the driveshaft bolts are loose mate. Pop the center caps off the wheels and check the bolt underneath.
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    Thanks MRP, the only thing is the i replaced drive shaft bolts with xc90 ones, in a fact leet5 fitted and torqued them up so, pretty 100% sure it won't be that, this bolt underneath maybe something to look at. The noise is as I just change gear you get x2 clunks one after the other, as I am changing the gear, I think also on initial reverse the clunk happens as well, which always lead me to think there maybe some transmission bush on its way out?

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    If it clonks as you come off the power and again as you come back on, it's almost definitely a driveshaft bolt.

    After that, it could be a lower torque mount.
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    Service conducted to day at Volvo, generality clean bill of health some little minor things to keep and eye but nothing to worry about. The clunking sound their technician is saying is a driveshaft, they have quoted some 500+ to change its which is the price for the part and fitting, which didn't seem to bad, but does anybody know of anybody who can do this cheaper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryW View Post
    Service conducted to day at Volvo, generality clean bill of health some little minor things to keep and eye but nothing to worry about. The clunking sound their technician is saying is a driveshaft, they have quoted some 500+ to change its which is the price for the part and fitting, which didn't seem to bad, but does anybody know of anybody who can do this cheaper?
    What has actually failed in the drive shaft

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    this is what it says 'Os/F driveshaft has play and is warn as can hear movement from 1-2 down in gears. new o/s/f drive shaft required' they did say only one is gone and to be honest probably it is best to get both done but at £500.00 each side i will only get the O/S/F one done if this is at fault. In fairness they did say to keep an eye on it, but it is just very annoying.

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    Did they not tighten the bolts to see if it helped?
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    The drive shaft itself won't have failed, unless it's snapped, it'll be a CV joint, which won't cost £500 to replace.

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    Axles bolts all torqued up with new xc90 ones LeeT5, helped us out in this so all ok there, your right don't think there is any issue with drive shaft snapping and no risk there, but just want to get it sorted for lowest cost, I think Volvo will replace a whole unit it's the part I think that costs the money, now I think I know the issue just want to get it into a specialist who can deal with it a reasonable price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryW View Post
    Axles bolts all torqued up with new xc90 ones LeeT5, helped us out in this so all ok there, your right don't think there is any issue with drive shaft snapping and no risk there, but just want to get it sorted for lowest cost, I think Volvo will replace a whole unit it's the part I think that costs the money, now I think I know the issue just want to get it into a specialist who can deal with it a reasonable price.
    Terry, I changed the Driveshafts on my S60 with quality aftermarket ones from a trader on ebay, they carry a 2 year warranty and they were around £50 each. Not a hard job either, I did a write-up on it. Don't pay a garage £500 for a job that will cost you no more than around £150 - £200 to do yourself.

    I'm really surprised nobody has mentioned this session I had on the S60. Note, you'll need to knock the lower ball joints out in order to remove the Driveshaft using my method, for £15 a piece you may as well replace them with new ones whilst they're out. Call it preventative maintenance but of course you can reuse the old ones if you wish. You will also need to replace the Driveshaft bolts again, or at least it's recommended as they're stretch bolts and the thread can strip if you reuse them.

    http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthre...nt-Replacement

    And links to the driveshafts I purchased.......

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    Incidentally, the Driveshafts that I mentioned above come with new ("standard") bolts. When I asked about the uprated XC-90 bolts you mentioned at my local dealers, the Parts team said they'd never heard of them despite me clarifying exactly what bolt it is and showing them on Vida. Not sure where these uprated ones you have came from but my local Volvo garage drew a blank.

    Incidentally on a foot note, I'm also informed that the XC-90 strut top spring seats are exactly the same part number as the V70 and S60 ones and aren't uprated either. That's just another myth, so I'm reliably told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesT5 View Post
    Incidentally, the Driveshafts that I mentioned above come with new ("standard") bolts. When I asked about the uprated XC-90 bolts you mentioned at my local dealers, the Parts team said they'd never heard of them despite me clarifying exactly what bolt it is and showing them on Vida. Not sure where these uprated ones you have came from but my local Volvo garage drew a blank.
    The Master Tech at my dealer had heard of them being used and said it was a big no-no. Apparently the rubber grommet on the end traps water and eventually the bolt corrodes and fuses itself in the thread and will snap when extracted!! This had happened only a month or so earlier apparently. They told me this after I had fitted them! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesT5 View Post
    Incidentally, the Driveshafts that I mentioned above come with new ("standard") bolts. When I asked about the uprated XC-90 bolts you mentioned at my local dealers, the Parts team said they'd never heard of them despite me clarifying exactly what bolt it is and showing them on Vida. Not sure where these uprated ones you have came from but my local Volvo garage drew a blank.

    Incidentally on a foot note, I'm also informed that the XC-90 strut top spring seats are exactly the same part number as the V70 and S60 ones and aren't uprated either. That's just another myth, so I'm reliably told.
    No, it's not a myth, Volvo have simply standardized new parts to the uprated XC-90 ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesT5 View Post
    Incidentally, the Driveshafts that I mentioned above come with new ("standard") bolts. When I asked about the uprated XC-90 bolts you mentioned at my local dealers, the Parts team said they'd never heard of them despite me clarifying exactly what bolt it is and showing them on Vida. Not sure where these uprated ones you have came from but my local Volvo garage drew a blank.

    Incidentally on a foot note, I'm also informed that the XC-90 strut top spring seats are exactly the same part number as the V70 and S60 ones and aren't uprated either. That's just another myth, so I'm reliably told.
    James, don't you worry about Terry's S60R or his axle bolts. I've got that covered and the bolts I fitted are correct and correctly torqued! For the record, they're not 'updated' they are simply XC90 axle bolts, not normally fitted to V70's. They are better because they have the large rubber washer that squashes against the metal washer and prevents them coming loose, which is what normally happens to S60,V70 and XC70 models.
    You just worry about your own car and it's maintainance before offering advice on fitted sub standard cheap eBay drive shafts to a 300bhp car that he not only needs to perform but he needs longevity due to the 30k per year mileage that he does.
    He also is not in a position to fit them himself.
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    Got second opinion on clunking, and it's the drive shaft, it's driving me nuts and I am getting it changed Saturday by my local volvo I managed to get discount on parts, I do believe I am getting there now things to do now reads:- cruise control issue needs replacement brake pedal and clutch pedal sensor, second key, fuel cap lock don't work, unfortunately may have to put off works to touch up body work for a month or 2, but I have the estimate anyhow, slight misting on steering rack, could be a biggy, slight oil leak from sump, seat runners creak may need replacement but there must be a solution or fix for this?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryW View Post
    Got second opinion on clunking, and it's the drive shaft, it's driving me nuts and I am getting it changed Saturday by my local volvo I managed to get discount on parts, I do believe I am getting there now things to do now reads:- cruise control issue needs replacement brake pedal and clutch pedal sensor, second key, fuel cap lock don't work, unfortunately may have to put off works to touch up body work for a month or 2, but I have the estimate anyhow, slight misting on steering rack, could be a biggy, slight oil leak from sump, seat runners creak may need replacement but there must be a solution or fix for this?.
    Hi mate, how did you get on with the driveshaft?

    Regards the two I highlighted above, normally when the cruise stops working it's due to a failed clutch pedal switch not the brake light switch. If your brake lights work normally then leave the brake switch alone.
    What makes you think the fuel cap lock doesn't work? Have you locked the car and then opened the flap? If so, you car may be set to not lock the fuel filler flap for 10 minutes after locking the car. This is normal and the setting can be changed in VIDA. The time delay is to allow you time to fill the fuel tank on the forecourt with the car locked once you exit the car. Once filled, you just shut the flap and at the 10 minute point the flap locks.

    Try it next time you got a spare 10 minutes. Lock car (flap stays unlocked)....10 minutes later (flap locks).

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    2) 10 minute delay on lock with key
    3) Fuel flap lock off (remains open even if car locked)
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    Will try out the locking on the fuel cap, with regards to the cruise control, I have replaced clutch pedal twice, so thought it may be brake pedal switch, something is killing the clutch pedal switch think I have been told about contaminated fluid getting to circuit board in the pedal switch and killing it. I am hoping the driveshaft is on order from Sweden and hoping it will land at volvo next week, I am picking up a new sat nav dvd from the parts dept tomorrow so will find out the status.

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    Never spotted this thread before. Mine does the same, like a rattley clunking.

    Luckily enough one of santas elves (he drives a DPD van) dropped off a pair of brand new driveshafts, a couple of ball joints and some silicone vacuum hose last night!

    Hopefully I can get on with it this weekend while her indoors is working, so me and my little 4 year old apprentice can shut ourselves in the garage for a few hours!
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