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    Head bolts

    As I`ve taken a few 5 cylinder engine apart and now have a quite a few sets of used head bolts.

    One set I`ve got was only on a engine for 300 miles.

    I`ve compared the length of all the head bolts and they are all the same length.

    I now they are stretch bolts or are they ??? or just a marketing thing to get people to buy new bolts every time the head is removed ???

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    I would of thought it obvious that seeing as all your bolts are used then they have stretched to the same length `cos of the same torque tightening!

    I would seriously buy a new set for your new engine otherwise you may regret it!.........also while your at it measure a new bolt...


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    Quote Originally Posted by 960kg View Post
    I would of thought it obvious that seeing as all your bolts are used then they have stretched to the same length `cos of the same torque tightening!

    I would seriously buy a new set for your new engine otherwise you may regret it!.........also while your at it measure a new bolt...
    I will buying a new set for the ME7 engine and I`ll be comparing them to the used sets I`ve got to see if they is a difference in length

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    Quote Originally Posted by oblark View Post
    I will buying a new set for the ME7 engine and I`ll be comparing them to the used sets I`ve got to see if they is a difference in length
    Those used bolts have had a hard life!



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    I re-used mine on the 850 (didn't really get the new bolt thing back then). The first time I had no problems.

    The second time I tried to re-use them one of them snapped leaving 2cm of the bolt in the block. Fortunately I managed to get a socket on the broken bit and undo it then fish it out with a magnet tool.

    So yeah, it's iffy re-using them once, twice you're probably gonna lose

    Oh and there was definitely a difference in the length compared to the new ones
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    To check.if theyve streched put a vernier on the should of the bolt. Me personly id just get some 12.9 cap heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave View Post
    I re-used mine on the 850 (didn't really get the new bolt thing back then). The first time I had no problems.

    The second time I tried to re-use them one of them snapped leaving 2cm of the bolt in the block. Fortunately I managed to get a socket on the broken bit and undo it then fish it out with a magnet tool.

    So yeah, it's iffy re-using them once, twice you're probably gonna lose

    Oh and there was definitely a difference in the length compared to the new ones
    my bolts were original & never been disturbed as far as I know. Two of them baked into the exhaust side of the block so snapped on the way out

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    I'd never ever re-use head bolts.

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    The set I removed from the ME7 engine I had to lay the engine on it`s side and stand on the engine, they where £$%&ing tight and where the orginal bolts.

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    don't re-use them , just go for new.
    I cant find a spec on the length for you in my data books.
    all of the models that you can re use state the length there, and what is ok or not.

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    Ive reused head bolts on my own standard engines but with this one ive just built running a fair bit more power I fitted new but did a caliper test on both used and new and they were the same
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    i'm sure you can get stretch and non stretch bolts

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    Quote Originally Posted by oblark View Post
    The set I removed from the ME7 engine I had to lay the engine on it`s side and stand on the engine, they where £$%&ing tight and where the orginal bolts.
    Oh yeah they're tight, I had to brace the engine against something solid using a barbell bar wedged into the water pump hole
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