intake pipe

[t5 pete]

I think New Zealand is a nice place. Have you ever been? if not you may be far wide of the mark.

I think Pizza Hut are good value for money. You may think that, someone else may disagree, so it's not fact.

I think the weather has been pretty good the last couple of weeks. Surely you know for a fact whether the weather has been good or not, why the ambiguity?

I think I might might put my feet up tonight. Again, you know whether or not you'll put your feet up, so know need to think.

I think the statements made above demonstrate my point nicely. Will they generate "abuse"? I don't think so. They don't demonstrate anything other than you write "I think" alot.

I think the larger ones allow the turbo to suck in more air. This suggests that it may allow the turbo to suck more air, but you're not really sure.

I think the last statement is typical of the one's people have problems with, you're never sure if what you're writing is fact, so the "I think" prefix is a get out of jail free card for you, as if anyone challenges what you wrote, you'll just say you weren't stating it as fact.

I think that's nail on head

[Shinsplintz 101]

Back to the OPs point - will the ecu ££££e itself if the air intake goes to 3"? I'm interested as I want to replace the maf to turbo pipe but want to stick with the original airbox. Heard conflicting reports of what it may do & th do88 site confuses matters by saying can't be used with original airbox. Will be here a remap but would like to get as much hardware in situ prior without killing the motor.

Only technically minded need reply........

Btw mine's a 850R but the principle.should be the same

Cheers, Morgan

[stribo]

What difference do 3" intake pipes make and what makes are good

3" intake pipes do indeed help turbo spool up,as they're freer flowing.

Ooohhh James faceoff....

You need to be careful fitting a larger inlet to an unmapped car as it can cause lean running (although mine didn't).
Branding makes little difference - they all do the same job. What you do get is lots of lovely induction noise

The bigger pipe won't cause a car to run lean, as the air is still passing through the standard MAF.

[MoleT-5R]

James suggesting fitting a 3" intake system to a car that you know nothing about what has been previously done to, is a very dangerous statement and the "I thinks" could land you in hot water when comments like this are taken up by some innocent newbie on here, who then fits said intake and then flows more air than the fueling can manage and in turn melts their engine on your advice, stick to angle grinding lessons and chemical metal and don't mess up someone else's car by your lack of knowledge in the area questioned

[theflyingbrick]

didn't andysR bend a rod after fitting a new intake? not 100 percent sure if it was a 3 incher though!! please standby whilst I have a quick gander through the archives

[merc85]

Fitting the uprated/larger intake will cause the air to flow Quicker as its not ribbed like the Oe volvo one, and being a larger size to it Will flow more increasing boost pressure, IF your runing boost close to the limit of the stock internals the increase MAY be enough to cause internal engine damage.

I know the above as i was in Andys car at the time.

[Jamest5r]

didn't andysR bend a rod after fitting a new intake? not 100 percent sure if it was a 3 incher though!! please standby whilst I have a quick gander through the archives

Yep.....

[MoleT-5R]

Careful Colin, you're closing comments could be construed as an attempt to 'bully' me off the forum. I advise caution plus I don't want to see this gentleman's thread wrecked by forum politics.

no bullying here just helpful advice to person that doesn't know what there talking about before there advice causes another member some serious grief mechanically

[theflyingbrick]

well I suppose I wont need to drag up archives then lol

[merc85]

well I suppose I wont need to drag up archives then lol

lol

[Wobbly Dave]

I have a 4 inch & I know that I need it - however it does have an anti surge collar not found on the TD04 turbos.

The standard tube is fine until you really start to run higher boost. You also have to bear in mind the voltage range for the MAF sensor. I had originally a 3 inch intake for the GTX but moved upto 4 when the MAF became saturated. The 4 inch actually slowed the air down. It did require alteration of the partial throttle map.

The lower photos show the successful of the smooth pipe on my 19T & that was 3 inch.

I have never had an issue with running one.

[M-R-P]

3" intake pipes do indeed help turbo spool up,as they're freer flowing.



The bigger pipe won't cause a car to run lean, as the air is still passing through the standard MAF.

Too fast a spoolup can lead to an initial overboost which can cause a lean burn, like a badly adjusted mbc but not as severe or prolonged.

I should've added more detail in my post but was working on the car at the time and my brain was distracted by something shiny

[Harvey]

was working on the car at the time and my brain was distracted by something shiny

Do tell....

[M-R-P]

Do tell....

Nowt special Harv, just sorting a small issue I've had since fitting the downpipe.

[Sharkey R]

Too fast a spoolup can lead to an initial overboost which can cause a lean burn, like a badly adjusted mbc but not as severe or prolonged.

I should've added more detail in my post but was working on the car at the time and my brain was distracted by something shiny

Is Graham at yours again??

[LeeT5]

I think New Zealand is a nice place. Have you ever been? if not you may be far wide of the mark.

I think Pizza Hut are good value for money. You may think that, someone else may disagree, so it's not fact.

I think the weather has been pretty good the last couple of weeks. Surely you know for a fact whether the weather has been good or not, why the ambiguity?

I think I might might put my feet up tonight. Again, you know whether or not you'll put your feet up, so know need to think.

I think the statements made above demonstrate my point nicely. Will they generate "abuse"? I don't think so. They don't demonstrate anything other than you write "I think" alot.

I think the larger ones allow the turbo to suck in more air. This suggests that it may allow the turbo to suck more air, but you're not really sure.

I think the last statement is typical of the one's people have problems with, you're never sure if what you're writing is fact, so the "I think" prefix is a get out of jail free card for you, as if anyone challenges what you wrote, you'll just say you weren't stating it as fact.

Couldn't agree more.

Back to the OPs point - will the ecu ££££e itself if the air intake goes to 3"? I'm interested as I want to replace the maf to turbo pipe but want to stick with the original airbox. Heard conflicting reports of what it may do & th do88 site confuses matters by saying can't be used with original airbox. Will be here a remap but would like to get as much hardware in situ prior without killing the motor.

Only technically minded need reply........ <<<<<< That's aimed at you James...What a bully!

Btw mine's a 850R but the principle.should be the same

Cheers, Morgan

James suggesting fitting a 3" intake system to a car that you know nothing about what has been previously done to, is a very dangerous statement and the "I thinks" could land you in hot water when comments like this are taken up by some innocent newbie on here, who then fits said intake and then flows more air than the fueling can manage and in turn melts their engine on your advice, stick to angle grinding lessons and chemical metal and don't mess up someone else's car by your lack of knowledge in the area questioned

You literally took the words out of my mouth. Well said.

Too fast a spoolup can lead to an initial overboost which can cause a lean burn, like a badly adjusted mbc but not as severe or prolonged.

I should've added more detail in my post but was working on the car at the time and my brain was distracted by something shiny

Which is why it also helps if you have a faster reacting TCV and not a standard one. oe TCV's are known for becoming a little lethargic with age.

[p fandango]

Which is why it also helps if you have a faster reacting TCV and not a standard one. oe TCV's are known for becoming a little lethargic with age.

theirs been plenty of known issues with IPD TCV's as well so a bit counterproductive

[T5RatherAmusin]

Can we all stop with the bull££££ now. 90% of vpc if full of this ££££
Just getting ridiculous now and show what a load of condescending £££££s most of you are....

Now as you are....

OP - what car do you have and any other supporting mods?

[dave_mito]

standard at the min.

plan is to take it of the road for a week and send ecu of to john (dream3r) for a remap.

whilst he has my ecu will be fitting vxr injectors, 3" decat down pipe, exhuast (unsure on weather to go for 2.5" or 3" and were from), and what ever else I can think of.

So thinking the intake pipe will be a good addition

[T5RatherAmusin]

Take it yours is 2.4 t5...
I have the 3.25" do88 intake pipe . uprated charge gear, fmic 3" decat....
You'll be fine on 2.5 cat back

It won't hurt in your case to get the intake pipe done
Youll feel the difference in the higher revs