Another "What map" thread ;)

[960kg]

The FACT is an off the shelf RICA/HLM map has just had the boost values hiked up, and little else.

The essence is Chris one has to buy his map according to what he wants to do with his motor!

Track days or Sprints as they were known in my day then ok an MTE map but on the highway where most of us drive my HLM with it`s kick in the pants and does not tail off until over three figure speeds is fast enough for continual use.......you cannot go down the Mways at a constant 90mph plus and feel safe, what with cameras and traffic!

Ok, so they say the HLM tends to be on the lean side but the boost will stop at 16psi and seeing as 10 is about standard on my V70 T5 i don`t call this being "hiked up"......with my MBC also fitted and been using 21psi for almost 3 yrs now i do call that psi "hiked up".

Also surely boost is only created by the turbo but the MAF and ECU amonst others settings allow it to happen so in practice you will only have more boost if your turbo is tweeked up
the map merely allows it to happen higher by removing the limit and replacing with another limit which in the HLM is 16psi........also i do understand the way maps give the AFR`s.

When i had my V40 T4 the boost was 19psi and on the rollers was about 240bhp this was with a standard ECU so why were other owners with an MTE map still only producing 237bhp but it had cost them £400 for the map? .......by the way AFR`s on the 1855 T4 are correct at this psi. but the system is on it`s adaptive limit.

[S70T5Chris]

Each to their own. Everyone is going to stick up for what they have on their car. I have neither currently, but have had both in the 13 years I've been playing around with turbo charged volvos.

Peak bhp figures only tell you so much.

With an mte map boost, fueling, ignition timing, etc are all altered to make a decent product.

Someone asked for an opinion, I have mine. It's no skin off my nose which remap people choose!

[S70T5Chris]

Actually that's not true, I have a rica 304 on the 850r I bought! With an EBC though, drivability is terrible!!

[Sweep]

Well this hasn't helped my decision at all lol!

I've always wanted to get into the mapping side of things so today I've been looking at the Turbo Tuner, the website is under development so no prices. Do any of you know how much the kit is?

[theflyingbrick]

I think it was about 600 quid

[T5frankie]

you'll still need a pro to map the turbo tuner properly

[Sweep]

I think it was about 600 quid

That's not as bad as I expected!

you'll still need a pro to map the turbo tuner properly

Maybe, but as it comes with a standard map I'd just build off that, plenty of information around, plus the feeling of DIY mapping must be fantastic

[stribo]

Well this hasn't helped my decision at all lol!

I've always wanted to get into the mapping side of things so today I've been looking at the Turbo Tuner, the website is under development so no prices. Do any of you know how much the kit is?

To be fair mate when it comes to remaps you'll never get a definitive answer, because there is no definitive answer, different people prefer different characteristics.

[T5RatherAmusin]

just fit an mbc and crank it all the way up!

[Jamest5r]

That's not as bad as I expected!


Maybe, but as it comes with a standard map I'd just build off that, plenty of information around, plus the feeling of DIY mapping must be fantastic

I've got a mte 16T map on a TT file plus a couple more, easy to send to you if you want a decent base to start from, but after a.couple of yrs of messing you will realise it's better to take it to an expert, got mine live mapped on the road for 250 quid

[Saaamon]

T5D5 is the best place to go if you want a debate on remaps, chips etc.. When I was on there it was very much towards mte, here on the other hand it's more rica/hlm.

[Jamest5r]

T5D5 is the best place to go if you want a debate on remaps, chips etc.. When I was on there it was very much towards mte, here on the other hand it's more rica/hlm.

Why?? We are capable and knowledgeable enough on here to have proper debate, and enough of the t5d5 lot pop in and comment ie Chris and redbrick etc

[Saaamon]

Why?? We are capable and knowledgeable enough on here to have proper debate, and enough of the t5d5 lot pop in and comment ie Chris and redbrick etc

Im not suggesting people aren't knowledgeable enough, far from it.

[Theador]

I had a chip, based on the RICA 304 put on a spare ECU. It was OK, but the throttle response when decelerating was horrid. Got neck ache driving around town.

Actually that's not true, I have a rica 304 on the 850r I bought! With an EBC though, drivability is terrible!!

[960kg]

T5D5 is the best place to go if you want a debate on remaps, chips etc.. When I was on there it was very much towards mte, here on the other hand it's more rica/hlm.

I personally would rather see a discussion on here about the different maps as on t5d5 most are bias towards MTE

They are anti HLM (Hamish)/ RICA (Adam) because the whole scenario is based towards the actual history of the mappers of the said maps!

I myself are not interested in the story of a blown up engine and how it came to be and the net result......if i were i would not of bought an HLM map........the proof is in the pudding how much you get for your buck in terms of performance providing you like the way it is delivered.

Just my opinion.

[Redbrick]

Why?? We are capable and knowledgeable enough on here to have proper debate, and enough of the t5d5 lot pop in and comment ie Chris and redbrick etc

I don't get what you are trying to say here, the above does not make sense.

I personally would rather see a discussion on here about the different maps as on t5d5 most are bias towards MTE

They are anti HLM (Hamish)/ RICA (Adam) because the whole scenario is based towards the actual history of the mappers of the said maps!

I myself are not interested in the story of a blown up engine and how it came to be and the net result......if i were i would not of bought an HLM map........the proof is in the pudding how much you get for your buck in terms of performance providing you like the way it is delivered.

Just my opinion.

Thanks for your opinion. If only you knew!

[stribo]

Why?? We are capable and knowledgeable enough on here to have proper debate, and enough of the t5d5 lot pop in and comment ie Chris and redbrick etc

I don't get what you are trying to say here, the above does not make sense.

I think what Jim is saying, and he can correct me if I'm wrong, is T5D5 isn't the only forum that can give educated opinions/views about remaps, there are plenty of members on this forum that have had remaps themselves, and if we were to fall short on knowledge, you and Chris could point us in the right direction.

[Theador]

Take your 850 to Shemtek or Tim Williams. They'll do you a much smoother map than Rica. I don't know anything about HLM.

I've rolled through 7 pages of the search function on here, as well as 3 pages on Google (desperate times when you hit page 2 on Google!) and nothing is jumping out at me. A lot of conflicting information with wildly mixed views and not many definitive answers, but I guess that sums the car scene up pretty well

Can my ECU be remapped, or would it require a "chip"? Chips seem a bit old hat these days, kind of thing you found on Cosworths and RS Turbo's back in the day! My car is an N reg 850 T5..

Who's the reputable tuners? What map are you guys running?

I've got a 2.5" cat-back ready to go on and I'm awaiting delivery of a big ass Green cone filter, so with the above mods I'd like to see some healthy gains with a map!

Any pointers appreciated.

Ben.

[Sweep]

Take your 850 to Shemtek or Tim Williams. They'll do you a much smoother map than Rica. I don't know anything about HLM.

Interesting, names I haven't heard yet! Who/what/where/how much?