volvo s80 d5 not starting anymore! !

**jamesy12345** · Sunday 11th May 2014, 14:12

As Plodmonkey says above it's the Euro 3 engine, without the Diesel Particulate Filter. Euro 3 is an emissions standard. I was just trying to work out if it had an in-tank/low pressure pump, which I believe it does

So the electric pump in the tank should be priming the lines when you turn the ignition on....but if there is an air lock then the pressure might not be enough to force the diesel through.

If it was my car I would....

*check the diesel level (as you have)
*make sure the fuel filter was full (as you have)
*confirm the low pressure pump is working as it should, not hearing a noise doesn't mean it's knackered but would be good to confirm this
*crank it over a good few times, make sure the battery has good charge! The link below says 5 secs at a time but I doubt this would do it

http://www.justanswer.com/uk-car/3uv...el-system.html

Beyond that fella it sounds like you need someone to come and take a look

**tha_cleric** · Sunday 11th May 2014, 14:17

Originally Posted by jamesy12345

As Plodmonkey says above it's the Euro 3 engine, without the Diesel Particulate Filter. Euro 3 is an emissions standard. I was just trying to work out if it had an in-tank/low pressure pump, which I believe it does

So the electric pump in the tank should be priming the lines when you turn the ignition on....but if there is an air lock then the pressure might not be enough to force the diesel through.

If it was my car I would....

*check the diesel level (as you have)
*make sure the fuel filter was full (as you have)
*confirm the low pressure pump is working as it should, not hearing a noise doesn't mean it's knackered but would be good to confirm this
*crank it over a good few times, make sure the battery has good charge! The link below says 5 secs at a time but I doubt this would do it

http://www.justanswer.com/uk-car/3uv...el-system.html

Beyond that fella it sounds like you need someone to come and take a look

Thank you so much for that! I'll definitely gonna try that tomorrow and I'm keep you guys posted!

**jamesy12345** · Sunday 11th May 2014, 14:23

Originally Posted by tha_cleric

Thank you so much for that! I'll definitely gonna try that tomorrow and I'm keep you guys posted!

try it out mate just some ideas, no expert me

like I said if it was my car that's what I'd do

**tha_cleric** · Sunday 11th May 2014, 14:26

Originally Posted by jamesy12345

try it out mate just some ideas, no expert me

like I said if it was my car that's what I'd do

I'm also gonna try to use a manual pump on the fuel circuit.... maybe there's air on it... I donno... will see tomorrow.

**jamesy12345** · Sunday 11th May 2014, 19:12

Originally Posted by tha_cleric

I'm also gonna try to use a manual pump on the fuel circuit.... maybe there's air on it... I donno... will see tomorrow.

Good idea mate - if you have the gear to do that, and it is an airlock, then that should be a big help

**pillapow** · Sunday 11th May 2014, 19:32

have you removed the outlet on the fuel filter, priming the fuel pump?

you say the diesel isnt reaching the injectors so you need to check every point from the injector line to the fuel tank and see where the fault is, shouldnt be too hard to establish why there is no diesel coming through.

**tha_cleric** · Sunday 11th May 2014, 19:35

Originally Posted by jamesy12345

Good idea mate - if you have the gear to do that, and it is an airlock, then that should be a big help

I will let you know tomorrow evening if I'll manage to sort it or not...

**tha_cleric** · Sunday 11th May 2014, 20:10

Originally Posted by pillapow

have you removed the outlet on the fuel filter, priming the fuel pump?

you say the diesel isnt reaching the injectors so you need to check every point from the injector line to the fuel tank and see where the fault is, shouldnt be too hard to establish why there is no diesel coming through.

I will try it tomorrow. Thank you for that!

**tha_cleric** · Thursday 15th May 2014, 07:15

Updates to my problem... I've took the car to the dealership, they've checked it and they told me it's definitely the in tank low pressure pump.... 600 quid to change it and the car will work. That was Tuesday.... I've asked them 4 times if they are 100% sure that's the problem. They've told me yes...and I've authorised them to change it. Well, they've changed it, and yesterday they rang me and told me that it's not only the pump and it might be the injectors. They also said that they have a spare set of injectors and they gonna try them today. Will see what happens..

**jamesy12345** · Thursday 15th May 2014, 07:23

Originally Posted by tha_cleric

Updates to my problem... I've took the car to the dealership, they've checked it and they told me it's definitely the in tank low pressure pump.... 600 quid to change it and the car will work. That was Tuesday.... I've asked them 4 times if they are 100% sure that's the problem. They've told me yes...and I've authorised them to change it. Well, they've changed it, and yesterday they rang me and told me that it's not only the pump and it might be the injectors. They also said that they have a spare set of injectors and they gonna try them today. Will see what happens..

seems a bit unlikely, pump AND injectors at the same time......are they sure the pump was really knackered....?

**tha_cleric** · Thursday 15th May 2014, 08:14

Originally Posted by jamesy12345

seems a bit unlikely, pump AND injectors at the same time......are they sure the pump was really knackered....?

I've asked them 4 TIMES!! And that's what they've told me... They've said they've checked the whole fuel system and the only problem is the low pressure pump. The thing is...I can't afford to change the injectors as well... it's too much for my low budget. ..

**jamesy12345** · Thursday 15th May 2014, 09:43

Originally Posted by tha_cleric

I've asked them 4 TIMES!! And that's what they've told me... They've said they've checked the whole fuel system and the only problem is the low pressure pump. The thing is...I can't afford to change the injectors as well... it's too much for my low budget. ..

I knew the early S80 diesels have some problems with their injectors but didn't think that extended to 2005...hope you get sorted and they aren't just guessing! Did changig the pump make any improvement at all?

**M-R-P** · Thursday 15th May 2014, 09:49

Ask them exactly what's wrong with the injectors - if they say they're leaking, all they need is removing, rubbing down with emery paper and new o-ring seals fitting. I did one on my mate's old D5 and it was an easy job.

**graemewelch** · Thursday 15th May 2014, 15:38

I would tell them your not paying the 600 quid and you want the old pump fitting. Get the car out of there and get it to a diesel specialist.

**tha_cleric** · Friday 16th May 2014, 18:32

Update!! I have a brand new in tank pomp fitted on my car and I have ordered injectors and a high pressure pump as well. They gonna arrive in tuesday. I would like to change them myself to save some money. My question is, beside the injectors and the pump, do I need to buy some kind of seals as well?? And is there any scheme to follow in order to fit them? Or there is only one way to put them on the car? Cuz I don't wanna make any mistakes, yiu know.... Any suggestions please?? Thank you a lot! !

**graemewelch** · Friday 16th May 2014, 18:43

The injectors are easy. Im.unsure if there coded though. Hp pump involves removing the cambelt but theres no timing on the pump

**jamesy12345** · Saturday 17th May 2014, 05:04

Originally Posted by tha_cleric

Update!! I have a brand new in tank pomp fitted on my car and I have ordered injectors and a high pressure pump as well. They gonna arrive in tuesday. I would like to change them myself to save some money. My question is, beside the injectors and the pump, do I need to buy some kind of seals as well?? And is there any scheme to follow in order to fit them? Or there is only one way to put them on the car? Cuz I don't wanna make any mistakes, yiu know.... Any suggestions please?? Thank you a lot! !

!! turned into a bigger job than expected, did they diagnose all these parts needed changing out? I can't see any decent write ups for swapping the HP pump on the net....maybe Haynes manual will give at least some guidance (or maybe it will say see the dealer...)

**tha_cleric** · Saturday 17th May 2014, 06:50

Originally Posted by jamesy12345

!! turned into a bigger job than expected, did they diagnose all these parts needed changing out? I can't see any decent write ups for swapping the HP pump on the net....maybe Haynes manual will give at least some guidance (or maybe it will say see the dealer...)

Yeah...well, I'll try to change them myself... I know how to change the injectors, but I'm a little concerned about the hp pump... But hopefully, it's gonna need only new injectors, and I will send the pump back for a full refund.

**graemewelch** · Saturday 17th May 2014, 11:03

sounds like a very expensive way to fix your car, me personaly i would of had it diagnosed correctly by a diesel specialist. clearly the garage youve been using dont have a clue.

**tha_cleric** · Saturday 17th May 2014, 12:33

Originally Posted by graemewelch

sounds like a very expensive way to fix your car, me personaly i would of had it diagnosed correctly by a diesel specialist. clearly the garage youve been using dont have a clue.

Well...it's the last thing I'm gonna do for it... And if is not going to work after this, I will set it on fire!