Blue Smoke and Smell of Oil and Petrol

[JamesT5]

Lee....

The AA will pay up to 5 claims in a policy year under the BRC.

The car has gone to a Volvo Specialist with Volvo timed served technicians, I'll await their verdict before making any final conclusions.

[LeeT5]

Lee....

The AA will pay up to 5 claims in a policy year under the BRC.

The car has gone to a Volvo Specialist with Volvo timed served technicians, I'll await their verdict before making any final conclusions.

I know that james but that doesn't mean they will actually pay out!!

If you read your terms and conditions booklet that came with your BRC you will also find it says.....and I quote....

BRC will not cover (Page 2.): garage labour costs exceeding £85 per hour, excluding VAT (So I hope the garage give you a discount on the labour rate)
: Failure of parts due to wear and tear.

This is why I said, do not assume they will pay you out the £465. If they send out a loss adjuster (and they do!) hope he says it's not wear and tear. The AA reserve the right to refuse your claim.

The correct terminology is ......You can make up to 5 claims in any 12 month period if you have nominated a single vehicle, increased up to 6 claims in any 12 month period if you have nominated more than one vehicle. Max is 4 vehicles.

Read step 5, page 4!!

It also says.....Page 8, (under What is not covered)....
4. Any vehicle that has been modified from the manufacturer's standard specification.

If an independent engineer inspects your vehicle and finds and mods (especially relating to the turbo) that could be all he needs to refuse the claim.

I know your probably pi@sed off right now and I'm not trying to hack you off, just saying that I would not just assume that your automatically covered, cos your not!
If you expect the worse case scenario then if the AA pay out then it can only be a good thing and a right result! that way, you won't be too disheartened.

[JamesT5]

I know that james but that doesn't mean they will actually pay out!!

If you read your terms and conditions booklet that came with your BRC you will also find it says.....and I quote....

BRC will not cover (Page 2.): garage labour costs exceeding £85 per hour, excluding VAT (So I hope the garage give you a discount on the labour rate)
: Failure of parts due to wear and tear.

This is why I said, do not assume they will pay you out the £465. If they send out a loss adjuster (and they do!) hope he says it's not wear and tear. The AA reserve the right to refuse your claim.

The correct terminology is ......You can make up to 5 claims in any 12 month period if you have nominated a single vehicle, increased up to 6 claims in any 12 month period if you have nominated more than one vehicle. Max is 4 vehicles.

Read step 5, page 4!!

It also says.....Page 8, (under What is not covered)....
4. Any vehicle that has been modified from the manufacturer's standard specification.

If an independent engineer inspects your vehicle and finds and mods (especially relating to the turbo) that could be all he needs to refuse the claim.

I know your probably pi@sed off right now and I'm not trying to hack you off, just saying that I would not just assume that your automatically covered, cos your not!
If you expect the worse case scenario then if the AA pay out then it can only be a good thing and a right result! that way, you won't be too disheartened.

I'll let the people with the cheque book make the decision.

[MIKESC70T5]

I hate to say it but poor oil choiced in the past will of done both engine and turbo no good what so ever

This couldn't have been caused by that oil you were running on for a short period earlier this year?

I agree,

[merc85]

yeah as above

[claymore]

It was only time before that oil debacle came back to bite you on the arse.

[JamesT5]

It was only time before that oil debacle came back to bite you on the arse.

I honestly think this is just an honest part failure, nothing to do with the oil.

[AndysR]

Looks like an internal engine fault to me rather than a turbo fault, I'm going with a headgasket failure as most likely cause, if that is the failure the oil wouldn't have played a part in its failure.... Be interesting to see what the specialist finds..

[volvokid]

Its going to be one of these things James that because people told you for ages about the oil they will have a told you so moment, but will you ever manage to prove it wasn't? Like you say it might have always have happened but you won't probably know that for sure.

[M-R-P]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I'm pretty sure it's not the turbo or the head gasket.

When it did this before, it went away and ran fine after a few turns of the key. I believe it to be an electrical fault of some kind and not mechanical.

[V70 Graham]

....I believe it to be an electrical fault of some kind and not mechanical.

Just wondering what kind of electrical fault could produce such an amount of smoke ?

[claymore]

This is a blown turbo, does it look familiar ?

[graemewelch]

This is a blown turbo, does it look familiar ?

But the car in the link runs. James car dosnt.

[silverhorse]

Just wondering what kind of electrical fault could produce such an amount of smoke ?

Agreed. Oil is getting somewhere it shouldn't, so surely something mechanical is amiss. On the plus side James, your wheel looks nice and shiny in the vid!!

[MIKESC70T5]

I'm in a wind up mood tonight lol, I suggest he scraps it and buy Frankie's 850r as it's ultra reliable and he only wants £4300 for it

[graemewelch]

I'm in a wind up mood tonight lol, I suggest he scraps it and buy Frankie's 850r as it's ultra reliable and he only wants £4300 for it

im biting my tong tonight

[MIKESC70T5]

im biting my tong tonight

Go on live dangerously, what's the worse that can happen, Frankie only hates me lol.

[M-R-P]

Well the smoke is a new one but the way it's running, being the same as I saw it before, says it's ignition/fuel pump/throttle.
The smoke being oil? Honestly, I dunno - isn't oil smoke blue? A knackered turbo doesn't usually just happen, it's a progressive thing that develops over time rather than just going like that.

[LeeT5]

Well the smoke is a new one but the way it's running, being the same as I saw it before, says it's ignition/fuel pump/throttle.
The smoke being oil? Honestly, I dunno - isn't oil smoke blue? A knackered turbo doesn't usually just happen, it's a progressive thing that develops over time rather than just going like that.

Ohh yes they do! I've seen plenty of Turbos let go and a few of them have been on the motorway. Last time I seen one was on a Vauxhall Zafira. On the M25 about 100m in front of me doing about 70. All of a sudden....plumes of white smoke billowed across the motorway and bought the whole M25 to a stop. In this case it was a complete Turbo failure, not only that, it started drinking engine oil and the engine run away. Bloke didn't know what to do, whilst he frantically got all his family out the car and on the hard shoulder, I slipped onto the Hard shoulder and parked behind him then jumped in and stalled it in 3rd gear. Bloke thought it was on fire cos there was that much smoke.

[merc85]

Had a Turbo instantly go a Berlingo 1.6 hdi, but they are comman for it lol