Blue Smoke and Smell of Oil and Petrol

[M-R-P]

Interesting that they said they think it's been mapped. When the injectors were done, it went well but nowhere near the level of a mapped car. If it's suddenly gotten faster, I'd suspect a problem with the tcv, actuator or related pipwork.

[soothingduck]

Beat me to it. Course they havnt. Its only 30 mins labour for a compression test. Prob 5 hrs labour for whats theyve done do far. So over 300 quid to be told we dont have a clue but we screwed the knackers off your car.

[MoleT-5R]

Just catching up here, I've watched the vid and the last time I saw lots of white smoke like that ,was on a Rover 2.6 SD1 when the cam belt let go, I was thinking whether James's cam belt has jumped a tooth or two and a valve has holed a piston (given he mentioned piston slap) allowing the oil to get by in large enough volume for white smoke and also explain the petrol smelling oil, honestly think cheapest option would have new/recon/second hand engine straight away and save on the diagnosis costs, just a thought

[960kg]

Also to add i don`t understand how the garage bloke think s the car is so quick it thought it was mapped ....yet the rings are screwed!.......to me simply opposite quotations!

Has anyone thought that the FPR or similar may of gone titsup and that is the cause of over fuelling enough to wash the bores of oil and replacing with raw fuel??

We need to know the fuel consumption at the moment!

Not a very clever garage man......

[claymore]

worn rings aren't going to chuck smoke like that out, a broken ring might though

[stribo]

Interesting that they said they think it's been mapped. When the injectors were done, it went well but nowhere near the level of a mapped car. If it's suddenly gotten faster, I'd suspect a problem with the tcv, actuator or related pipwork.

They go quickest just before they die, probably as internal clearances are so large friction is greatly reduced, the resulting failure is quite spectacular.

[Jimmie]

They haven't done a compression test yet ?.

I would have thought a compression check would have been one of the first things any competent mechanic would have done

[960kg]

Volvo cured the piston slap saga in the early `90`s as my 2litre turbo 940 used shorter pistons with No oil squirters at the base of each cylinder.

Now, the design of pistons is different and also every turbo engine has these squirters....so again i think the garage man is trying to blind one with science...

[MIKESC70T5]

Garages can smell a gullible customer a mile off so there milking him for every penny.

[Harvey]

Has the garage removed all the plugs yet to see if there is any damage to any of them.

Found this guide that might be worth taking to the garage and ask why the didn't do what they should have done first.

The workshop tech should know better.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...K1aNbPtfTVHyhQ

[stribo]

Garages can smell a gullible customer a mile off so there milking him for every penny.

Hmmm, this is a tricky one, because although James has been told by many people, many times he's doing the wrong thing, and even though he's generally ignored the advice he's been given, he's still either got a huge bill to pay to get the Volvo sorted, or got to find the money for another car. That's not a situation I'd want to be in, so although James bashing would be easy right now, I hope he can get some sort of decent resolution to his current dilemma, and then either LISTEN TO ADVICE, AND TAKE IT ON BOARD, OR STOP WORKING ON HIS CAR HIMSELF. (yes the caps were intentional)

[t5 pete]

Hmmm, this is a tricky one, because although James has been told by many people, many times he's doing the wrong thing, and even though he's generally ignored the advice he's been given, he's still either got a huge bill to pay to get the Volvo sorted, or got to find the money for another car. That's not a situation I'd want to be in, so although James bashing would be easy right now, I hope he can get some sort of decent resolution to his current dilemma, and then either LISTEN TO ADVICE, AND TAKE IT ON BOARD, OR STOP WORKING ON HIS CAR HIMSELF. (yes the caps were intentional)

Nail on head my southern friend

[pillapow]

Compression test - Remove head & Turbo, inspect..

If its knackered, its knackered, you should of pulled it apart yourself.

Never go to a garage for mechanical failure.

££££ - Hope you get it sorted mate.

[pillapow]

Listening to the video, when your turning it over, there is a sort of noise, like a reluctancy to turn, at certain points of the engine rotation (if you know what i mean) they are consistent, It sounds like engine failure to me, how, i dont know, but the clue is in the engine cranking noise.

[V70 Graham]

I just hope James can get this sorted one way or the other.....cheap as poss would be good.

[JamesT5]

Right, here's the deal.....

An engine and turbo dismantle is not (as suggested above) something I can do at home, it has to go to a garage. Both AA Patrol men and myself smelled petrol in the oil, that therefore I know is correct.

I asked the garage to strip the car down so I could get a pin firmly on the map and there's no mucking about with guessing games or "it might be this or it might be that". A compression test is one thing, a strip down and internal inspection reveals a whole lot more.

I'm going to see this through to whatever conclusion I deem necessary and by whatever means I personally judge suitable and I will comment on the conclusion of this once it's done. At the moment I just seem to be getting criticised left, right and centre. I notice that others on here have had quite major engine issues and haven't attracted anywhere near as much flack for it, I don't see why this situation should be any different - at the end of the day an engine problem is a bloody engine problem and that's the bottom line.

I'll post more when a solution is underway rather debate the rights and wrongs of the diagnostics stage.

[Sperm1980]

Hi James,

I love reading your threads, better than eastenders with all the comments etc.

As for the car, it would have been good to get a whiff of the smoke from the exhaust. You can tell alot from wether its trying to burn coolant, fuel or oil.

As MRP said, it did it before and then cleared, so maybe an intermittant turbo actuation or fuelling fault which may have killed it.

Either way, its at the garage now being stripped, but if i'm honest, I would throw in the towel now. The costs incurred in a strip down, diagnosis and repair will get you a another pretty good T5 in my opinion.

Just my opinion if I were in your shoes!

Cheers

Paul

[jamesy12345]

It's only a car hope you get it sorted one way or another - either in the bin or fixed

[MIKESC70T5]

Before this latest mishap, what do people think this car is worth if it was up for sale, the mileage is around 180,000 isn't it?

[M-R-P]

260k mate