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    Exclamation Blue Smoke and Smell of Oil and Petrol

    Had a fab drive back from work tonight, even stopped at Aldi on the way home and as I pulled on to my drive and came to a stop, the engine was idling virtually at stalling point and then to my horror I saw blue-white smoke from the tail pipe and could smell burning oil and neat petrol. This came without warning although the car has had this choking idle issue before but recovered. It's also refused to start, once at MRP's place and several times prior to today - the car would try and start but hardly climb above stalling revs.

    Anyway, I've called the AA seeing as I have garage cover but why this without warning I'm not quite sure. I've got to get to work tomorrow so I hope it's an easy fix.

    So far I have checked the engine bay for oil leaks (non obvious), engine oil looks fine, no error codes (especially looking for mis-fire errors on the cylinders). I could do a cylinder compression test and take the spark plugs out but the AA are on their way so I'll let them do that seeing I pay for the privilege.

    Bit worried here I've got to be honest but I'll keep you all posted. Anyone else had this issue?

    p.s. I have got some video footage that I'll try and upload.

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    Not sounding good,could be turbo have a look at the boost pipes for oil,is the water level ok ?.
    If there is a lot of oil getting into the cylinders that will stop the plugs working so the petrol can't get burnt. Just hope it's not to bad good luck.
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    My instinct is valve stem seal or knackered con rod.

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    Maybe it's because you have all these black bushes in your car. At the end of the day bushes are there to take the vibrations away from the people/equipment/electronics and the torque away fixing points otherwise the mountings flex and in the end snap. But also equipment that as not been designed to take vibration. I think you will kill your car very soon (shaken car syndrome) very nut and bolt/mounting/fixing/weld/sheet metal/microchip/solder joint/glass that is after the bushes will start to fail and fail very fast as none of it was designed to survive under these conditions. Please don't take this the wrong way as I don't wish to provoke you in anyway, it's just how I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soothingduck View Post
    Maybe it's because you have all these black bushes in your car. At the end of the day bushes are there to take the vibrations away from the people/equipment/electronics and the torque away fixing points otherwise the mountings flex and in the end snap. But also equipment that as not been designed to take vibration. I think you will kill your car very soon (shaken car syndrome) very nut and bolt/mounting/fixing/weld/sheet metal/microchip/solder joint/glass that is after the bushes will start to fail and fail very fast as none of it was designed to survive under these conditions. Please don't take this the wrong way as I don't wish to provoke you in anyway, it's just how I see it.
    The black bushes aren't that hard, honestly! I seriously doubt some Polyurethane suspension bushes would cause this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesT5 View Post
    My instinct is valve stem seal or knackered con rod.
    Stem seals usually only smoke first thing in the morning as oil had drained into the cylinders over night,
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    Yeah its not seals and I doubt its con-rod because it would be knocking like billy oh

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    Turbo failure
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdavis View Post
    Turbo failure
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    Have you checked the oil and the water?
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    Compression test and a sniff test of the coolant?? Has performance been down recently? ?headgasket?

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    I would be suspecting turbo
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    If its the turbo, how does that affect the idle?
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    Hate to say it mate, but does not sound too good. Could be a few things, but they all have the ability to seriously lighten your wallet. Car engines are not designed to burn oil, so when they do there is something amiss.
    Bloody hell James, I hope this is something simple. (and cheap!!!)
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    Update!

    The AA have been out and I went through the possible causes with the patrol man. We removed the coil packs and spark plugs and they were all fine, no oil and no signs of any issues there. Tried adding some petrol just to rule out that as a very remote possibility and the car just seemed to 'choke' as it tried turning over, again a strong smell of petrol. The patrol man seemed to think that the smell of oil wasn't oil at all because there was no sign of it on the spark plugs or anywhere, he seemed to think what I smelled was actually petrol fumes and that what I have is a failure of the Turbo (as suspected by some of you above as well!) He also said the oil looks nice and clean and there was no issues with water levels either or any oil in the water for example.

    The AA are sending out another patrol in the morning for a "second opinion" but it's looking increasingly likely I'll be shopping for a second hand turbo very shortly.

    To turn a good in to a bad, is it worth me trying to get a bigger turbo here and killing two birds with one stone (i.e. more power potential)? I know there's different numbers like 16, 18 19 but I'm not sure I understand the system there and what's compatible and what will fit straight on. I'll be on a tight budget!

    I'll organise the videos of the car earlier just after the problem started, I'll post them up as soon as I can. Got to phone work now and tell them I won't in, in the morning. Another days wages lost!

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    I hate to say it but poor oil choiced in the past will of done both engine and turbo no good what so ever. If its the turbo it will be easy to spot. Compression test would be the 2nd thing id do. 1st being checking turbo for play and oil.on the exhaust side
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    When you turn the ingition on, can you hear the fuel pump?

    Mine sounds like that when the fuel pump died, or I've forgotten to turn it on!




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