Blue Smoke and Smell of Oil and Petrol

[claymore]

Before this latest mishap, what do people think this car is worth if it was up for sale, the mileage is around 180,000 isn't it?

I would say £900 on a good day

[Jimmie]

One thing for sure James is not a Volvo breaker.As he says he’s going to see this through to the end.
Why would you scrap a vehicle if it only needs an engine ?
In the end of the day it's his money to do as he wishes!
Nobody on here is going to be able to take there money with them are they?

[claymore]

One thing for sure James is not a Volvo breaker.As he says he’s going to see this through to the end.
Why would you scrap a vehicle if it only needs an engine ?
In the end of the day it's his money to do as he wishes!
Nobody on here is going to be able to take there money with them are they?

The problem is, James has spent thousands of pounds keeping this car on the road, he should have got out of this car when the clutch went on it.

[Jimmie]

The problem is, James has spent thousands of pounds keeping this car on the road, he should have got out of this car when the clutch went on it.

Well I don't broadcast what I spend on my vehicles that's maybe the difference between us !!

[M-R-P]

The problem is, James has spent thousands of pounds keeping this car on the road, he should have got out of this car when the clutch went on it.

Same problem I have with mine, although mine's more the effort gone in to it rather than the £4k+ it's cost. You get to a point when it owes you too much to scrap it.

He's got £2k of parts there if he decides to break it but I can't see that happening.
So, I totally agree that a compression test should have been the first port of call and scouting about for a new engine in the mean time, just in case.

[V70 Graham]

We all spend lots on our cars, my clutch went and I've had a few bills, nothing that would make me scrap the car though.

[M-R-P]

We all spend lots on our cars, my clutch went and I've had a few bills, nothing that would make me scrap the car though.

But yours is low mileage, well cared for and in excellent condition.

Cars like mine and James' are barely worth more than their insurance bill.

[silverhorse]

Cars like mine and James' are barely worth more than their insurance bill.

Bloody Hell! How much is your insurance?? I pay £420 for 2 T5's, a Shogun and a motorbike, all fully comp! But that's another thread.....

[M-R-P]

Bloody Hell! How much is your insurance?? I pay £420 for 2 T5's, a Shogun and a motorbike, all fully comp! But that's another thread.....

On the open market, you'd struggle to get more than £500 for a 12 year old, 200+k mile car that's £280 a year to tax, group 16E to insure and does 20mpg around town at best.

[volvokid]

Anyway how does the garage know how fast your car is??? I thought it wasn't running...

[ExternalError]

Anyway how does the garage know how fast your car is??? I thought it wasn't running...

I did wonder that but I guessed he was talking about when he drove it the last time when he did the clutch

[Harvey]

So, I totally agree that a compression test should have been the first port of call and scouting about for a new engine in the mean time, just in case.

Compression test should've been done first and then if something came up a leak down test should been carried out afterwards.
Just hope there's a bit of good news soon.

[partsforvolvos.com]

Interesting that they said they think it's been mapped. When the injectors were done, it went well but nowhere near the level of a mapped car. If it's suddenly gotten faster, I'd suspect a problem with the tcv, actuator or related pipwork.

i have known quite a few volvo petrol turbo cars that went faster just before the turbo failed and in fact customers commented seemed slower afterwards.
personally, I put this down to wear in the actuator shaft assemblies allowing more boost than is normal.

I hope you obtain enough info from the investigation to make a sensible decision about the car james, but my advice given the mileage is to treat the engine as a whole unit. - I personally would not choose to do any internal repairs if the engine is at fault as other parts you don't replace will be considerably worn, and you can probably pick up another unit with half your mileage reasonably easily.

I replaced my T4 engine because although we found only 1 rod was bent(and not badly ), at 140k there was wear in the head components inc cams.

its a difficult decision to walk away from a car or not, and when you look at how much everybody spends on their car, mods or otherwise I bet the vast majority on vpcuk would be in the same situation overall - have already spent more than the resale value of their car.

[JamesT5]

Right, here's the first 'fix' option underway....

First of all a compression test had been carried out by the Specialist, all cylinders pressures were ok and pretty much even (in other words nothing to worry about there).

I've discussed the options with the specialist and at the moment the service manager informs me they've spent about 2 - 3 hours labour on the car in total given that it's been an ad-hoc job as it wasn't booked in.

The engine has not been dismantled, they haven't done that yet and what I've agreed with them is that they will replace the seals in the turbo and refit it, then we'll see if there's any need for further examination. The car has been described as 'lumpy' at idle but drives well enough on the road, it just smokes like a chimney and is burning oil (I know it's burning oil because I smelled it and so did both AA men).

If, after refitting the turbo, it still smokes then that will warrant taking the head off the engine for an internal inspection but until then I reserve judgement. The car might be on the road by next weekend but no promises.

[pillapow]

I put my money on the problem being inside the head.

[JamesT5]

I put my money on the problem being inside the head.

Yes, you could well be right but I want to start at the simple end first and then eliminate that before moving on any further.

[M-R-P]

Regardless if it's the problem, having a 260k turbo rebuilt can't be a bad thing.

[Harvey]

First of all a compression test had been carried out by the Specialist, all cylinders pressures were ok and pretty much even (in other words nothing to worry about there).
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That's good news to hear.

I did have a big smoke problem with my S60 which turned out to be the firetrap drain to sump was blocked or only just.
So what happened the trap filled with engine oil to the point the oil then went through the pct nipple into the turbo inlet.

[JamesT5]

I'm actually feeling pretty chilled out about this to be honest, I always know that there is a solution to a problem with the car, unless it has been 'totaled' in an accident, only then would I accept defeat! At worst I would 'retire' this car to occasional use and get a new daily runner.

At the moment, this week I have from the hire company a 2 litre CRTDi 160bhp Vauxhall Insginia on a 13 plate, lovely 'big wagon' feel and I like the spacious feel of it and the road presence, but I just can't beat the Volvo for comfort and handling.

[V70 Graham]

I put my money on the problem being inside the head.

The cars.....or James's (I'm just kidding)