Need advice, V70R manual gearbox

**saffronR** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 05:15

Hi fellow VPCUK members,

I've been absent for a while, probably over two years actually, due in part to selling my Saffy, but the good news is I may buy it back!

The trouble now, the guy I sold it to has had a problem with the manual gearbox, which I thought would be bomb proof, and it now requires a new one, ive had a quick look around the net, to find a replacement, but can't locate one, does anyone know if a normal T5 manual box would be compatible?

If I can locate a box, that's not too expensive, then I would definitely have my old R back, it was a top motor when I had it.

Cheers,

Scott.

**merc85** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 08:13

It will have a M59 gearbox, the m56 gearbox will fit but you may have to change the clutch release bearing and driveshaft, also the flywheel is solid on the early type unlike this one which will be DMF

**stribo** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 08:28

I could be wrong, but if it's AWD, I think the casing's different to accommodate the transfer box.

**stribo** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 08:31

Originally Posted by merc85

It will have a M59 gearbox, the m56 gearbox will fit but you may have to change the clutch release bearing and driveshaft, also the flywheel is solid on the early type unlike this one which will be DMF

I thought all P1s had M56 'boxes, only difference being the pre ME7 had solid flywheels, and ME7s had DMFs.

**munster732** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 08:42

If you message Shem, he is selling anM59 gearbox from a S70R.
In fact I will text him and let him know you want one.
Wayne

**merc85** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 09:18

Originally Posted by stribo

I thought all P1s had M56 'boxes, only difference being the pre ME7 had solid flywheels, and ME7s had DMFs.

No bud s70r/v70r ph1 had m59 box with diff and dmf

**stribo** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 10:38

Originally Posted by merc85

No bud s70r/v70r ph1 had m59 box with diff and dmf

So did the early C70s have M59s as well, or have they all got M56?

**T5frankie** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 10:43

Originally Posted by stribo

So did the early C70s have M59s as well, or have they all got M56?

you should know that already mate by driving it

**p fandango** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 10:47

Originally Posted by stribo

I could be wrong, but if it's AWD, I think the casing's different to accommodate the transfer box.

AWD is the M58. The M59 casing is also different to the M56

Originally Posted by stribo

So did the early C70s have M59s as well, or have they all got M56?

it'll be a M56

**saffronR** · Saturday 12th April 2014, 23:50

Thanks for the replies guys, fantastic help.

Its a front wheel drive, I'm currently at work (offshore West Africa) but this has been of huge assistance, i'll look around for these M56 type boxes, and keep you posted as to how I get on.

Ill also mail the lad who owns my old car, and find out if he can identify exactly the issue, and code of its current box.

Thanks again.

Scott.

**saffronR** · Sunday 13th April 2014, 05:06

Originally Posted by munster732

If you message Shem, he is selling anM59 gearbox from a S70R.
In fact I will text him and let him know you want one.
Wayne

Thanks Wayne,

If i could have some details of the box he has on offer, (miles/Price/location) then I can work out quite easily if it's going to be cost effective to buy back my old R or not.

I would much prefer to buy from a forum member than some unknown knackers yard on fleabay!

Scott.

**saffronR** · Wednesday 10th June 2015, 23:02

Thread update!

After over a year of trying to buy my old car back, I final towed her home tonight! What a sorry state she looks! If only the lad would have let me have it last year!

Anyway back on track, I NEED A GEARBOX! M59 I understand, Front wheel drive manual 1998 R V70R, anyone able to help???

Cheers,

Scott.

**Tomcat** · Wednesday 10th June 2015, 23:25

You'll need the long drive shaft as well as the one for the M59 is different. What's the problem with your old box?

**saffronR** · Wednesday 10th June 2015, 23:33

It was damaged by what looks like a large bolder hitting it at speed, punching a hole into the casing, and the box dumping it fluids.

How do I find out what box it has? Is it likely to be the M59?

**AcidicDavey** · Wednesday 10th June 2015, 23:46

It will be a M59 unless it has been replaced previously.

**smithy** · Thursday 11th June 2015, 01:37

Originally Posted by saffronR

It was damaged by what looks like a large bolder hitting it at speed, punching a hole into the casing, and the box dumping it fluids.

How do I find out what box it has? Is it likely to be the M59?

Most m59 box end up with a hole in the side .

**Tomcat** · Thursday 11th June 2015, 10:10

Originally Posted by smithy

Most m59 box end up with a hole in the side .

How's that?..

**saffronR** · Thursday 11th June 2015, 10:33

Originally Posted by AcidicDavey

It will be a M59 unless it has been replaced previously.

Thanks, don't have one for sale do you

**Ettienne** · Thursday 11th June 2015, 10:44

I don't find them any worse than m56s, but either will fail if mistreated and not serviced, pretty much the same with m66 awd although they are a bit stronger

**Ettienne** · Thursday 11th June 2015, 11:04

M59s are interchangable with flywheels you can use either solid or dual mass and either will work with internal or external slaves.

I.e internal slave dmf or smf
External slave dmf or smf

We use smf's from 850 with internal slaves on the m66!!!