Powerflex Black Series Ordered!

[JamesT5]

theyll be made in the same mould using the same cad design as all other bushes that are made in the yellow stuff. rather you than me with the harsh ride. hope you havnt got any loose filling.

Yes, same design for obvious reasons or they wouldn't fit but powerflex claim the compound is 80% stiffer than standard rubber bushings.

It all comes down to personal preference, some people just go with uprated standard rubber bushings and are happy but other like myself prefer the harder ride.

[M-R-P]

It'll be noisy too, I remember when I did the wishbones and engine mounts, I thought the manifold was cracked!

[graemewelch]

It'll be noisy too, I remember when I did the wishbones and engine mounts, I thought the manifold was cracked!

martyn just think of it as a knock tool that they use at power engineering but on speaker phone

[LeeT5]

I've got a mixture of new OE, yellow, purple and Black powerflex bushes, all in the right places - I think. My car handles well, feels firm (like a new car does) and has a nice audible note without being intrusive, annoying, no dash vibration and above all, when cruising, it's fairly quiet. Meaning I haven't gotta turn the stereo up loud to hear the music. I'll be interested to know how this pans out.
I know you want a 'firm ride' James, but I think you may be going to far. After all, isn't your car a daily runner? I know I like to put my toe down now and again and it's nice to hear and feel the car but really? Black series throughout! You sure?

[JamesT5]

I've got a mixture of new OE, yellow, purple and Black powerflex bushes, all in the right places - I think. My car handles well, feels firm (like a new car does) and has a nice audible note without being intrusive, annoying, no dash vibration and above all, when cruising, it's fairly quiet. Meaning I haven't gotta turn the stereo up loud to hear the music. I'll be interested to know how this pans out.
I know you want a 'firm ride' James, but I think you may be going to far. After all, isn't your car a daily runner? I know I like to put my toe down now and again and it's nice to hear and feel the car but really? Black series throughout! You sure?

Yes I'm sure mate.

I definitely turn my back on 'normality' as many of my friends will tell you, I don't mind being viewed as a bit of a 'crackpot' and I'm willing to break the mould when it comes to stuff like this. I tend to fly in the face of the unknown at times and take the plunge where others daren't, although I have my own limits such as not wanting to climb Everest or jump out of an Aeroplane - I draw the line there.

Basically, I want to see just how rock hard I can make my car and really push the boat out plus I have this thing, some may think I've got OCD with this, but basically I want all the same bushes as much as possible so that I can feel what it's like to have Black Series everything and everywhere.

I'm probably raising eyebrows doing all of this but I'm really looking forward to the results.

[LeeT5]

Well if you wanna go really hard then the only way forward is to fit a chassis brace kit and also make the engine top mount solid.

I know someone with a manual R, same as mine who did just that. His top mount was solid metal!

[LeeT5]

Yes I'm sure mate.

I definitely turn my back on 'normality' as many of my friends will tell you, I don't mind being viewed as a bit of a 'crackpot' and I'm willing to break the mould when it comes to stuff like this. I tend to fly in the face of the unknown at times and take the plunge where others daren't, although I have my own limits such as not wanting to climb Everest or jump out of an Aeroplane - I draw the line there.

Basically, I want to see just how rock hard I can make my car and really push the boat out plus I have this thing, some may think I've got OCD with this, but basically I want all the same bushes as much as possible so that I can feel what it's like to have Black Series everything and everywhere.

I'm probably raising eyebrows doing all of this but I'm really looking forward to the results.

I think you may find the car is almost undriveable, unless on a smooth race track. It will also put undue stress on the suspension components and will definately shorten their life!
The car may also skip and dance about on the uneven roads and therefore make it feel uneasy at motorway speed. Not a nice feeling.
It's a lot of money to spend only to find you have to take half of them off.
Good luck

[claymore]

Yep, I'm with Lee on this one,

[JamesT5]

Has anyone here actually gone totally Black on the front end? If not then it's all a guessing game and I could be on to a winner.

[stribo]

If you want to go really hard James, stop fannying about with bushes, and fit coilovers

[JamesT5]

If you want to go really hard James, stop fannying about with bushes, and fit coilovers

I thought about getting rid of my shocks and putting in solid cast iron 'rods', but I'll settle for some coilovers.

[Harvey]

I guess it would be like 19" on a "R" in advance mode,on a rough road = hopeless ride.

[JamesT5]

Don't worry everyone, I'll be putting in a full report when they're fitted and Mr Peachy can have the first VPC exclusive ride review when he's finished assisting me with the fitting.

[stribo]

I guess it would be like 19" on a "R" in advance mode,on a rough road = hopeless ride.

The shocks and spring rates won't change, so I doubt the actual suspension will be mch harder, all that'll happen is they'll be more NVH (noise, vibration, harshness), as the bushes won't damp it out.

[JamesT5]

The shocks and spring rates won't change, so I doubt the actual suspension will be mch harder, all that'll happen is they'll be more NVH (noise, vibration, harshness), as the bushes won't damp it out.

You have to admit, cornering will be awesome though, I might even beat Frankie on a track day (now I have started something!)

[stribo]

You have to admit, cornering will be awesome though, I might even beat Frankie on a track day (now I have started something!)

The bushes will help wheel location, but as it's still running the same suspension including anti-roll bars, it won't make much difference to the handling, unless you drive it on it's limit all the time.

[claymore]

with not having a strut brace, I think the inner wings will shake themselves to bits

[graemewelch]

Got disaster written all over it. Your going to ruin the car big time

[JamesT5]

with not having a strut brace, I think the inner wings will shake themselves to bits

Only £115 from PFV, ebay seems short of them.

[LeeT5]

I thought about getting rid of my shocks and putting in solid cast iron 'rods', but I'll settle for some coilovers.

R u taking the p*ss?