Half way to work and...... Jolt!

[JamesT5]

The clutch failed!

I was approaching a junction to turn right, de-clutched and there was a 'jolt' through the clutch pedal and I couldn't engage 1st gear (or any other gear for that matter). So I managed to get in to the right hand turn, rolled it down a hill and pulled in to a local school driveway and called the AA. The car would not engage any gear but would 'creep' forward when I pushed the gear stick against the gear selector, I know that gearbox is working on and it is clutch related.

The AA man turned up and plonked some clutch fluid in and pumped the clutch to see if it could be a leak in the slave cylinder, then pumped the clutch pedal but it made no difference.

Then I had to wait for another AA man to come out and tow me home. Whilst waiting for him I turned the engine off for a bit and then tried restarting it but it struggled massively to fire up, and was 'chugging' around 500 rpm. The throttle was non-responsive although the engine was running but what really shocked me and is quite worrying is that the engine temperature slowly creeped right up towards the higher end of the scale on the needle. Why would it do this? Surely engine temperature has nothing to do with the clutch? I turned the engine off and the engine cooled down but I don't know how this relates to clutch failure and just to clarify, the engine temperature had not creeped up before the clutch failure.

Either way I'm now totally stuck, all this hard work and now this. Personally I think the garage who installed the clutch and gearbox for me may have made a serious installation error and I'm considering having the car taken on a flat loader to GRN to see if they can sort it for me.

One consolation, I have garage repair cover on my AA policy, at least that should ease the burden!

I'm moving house this week as well, could the timing of all this be worse on top of the fact that I was on my way to work and I've lost a shift tonight because if it.

[AndysR]

Dual mass flywheel failure....?

[stephenevans99]

It Never Rains James.....like we said at the Two Henry's meet, sometimes it feels like 1 step forward and 2 steps back. I feel your pain mate.

I honestly can't understand why a clutch failure would effect the engine cooling.....BUT it is a P2

[claymore]

There is absolutely no way I'm going to gloat, I really feel for you

[M-R-P]

Have you had a look at the gearbox James? just wondering if a pipe or bit of wiring loom has dropped and got tangled up with the gear linkage.

Long shot I know but there's coolant pipes and a lot of cables running a couple of inches away from the shift arm.

[Biff]

Bad day for both of us James! Hope it's sorted for you soon, we both have had a lot of bad luck!

[merc85]

what make was the clutch and flywheel out of interest?

[M-R-P]

what make was the clutch and flywheel out of interest?

iirc, both genuine volvo but the flywheel was 2nd hand.

[JamesT5]

Yes, it was a LuK clutch and I had a new slave cylinder as well.

[JamesT5]

Dual mass flywheel failure....?

Well, obviously can't rule it out but if it is then I have a massive amount of ammunition against the company that sold it to me.

[JamesT5]

Incidentally, there is no coolant loss (reference the engine temperature).

[merc85]

Well, obviously can't rule it out but if it is then I have a massive amount of ammunition against the company that sold it to me.

was is sold with a guarantee then??

[JamesT5]

Bad day for both of us James! Hope it's sorted for you soon, we both have had a lot of bad luck!

I did notice you've posted a thread up about a suspected bent rod. Annoying and worrying when stuff like this goes wrong, isn't it!

[AndysR]

Well, obviously can't rule it out but if it is then I have a massive amount of ammunition against the company that sold it to me.

Well if the flywheel was new then you'd have a guarantee so you may not need to enter into an argument with those that fitted it, if it's a second hand item and all appeared well when fitted then I doubt you'll have much comeback. If the flywheel has failed and it's knocking the engine management may just be interpreting the knock as misfire/det and retarding the timing which may explain your temperature issue

[JamesT5]

was is sold with a guarantee then??

As you know from running a business of your own Gav, the Sale of Goods act will cover me in that the goods sold must be of satisfactory quality and be fit for purpose. If it has failed, it will be obvious that the part wasn't.

[merc85]

As you know from running a business of your own Gav, the Sale of Goods act will cover me in that the goods sold must be of satisfactory quality and be fit for purpose. If it has failed, it will be obvious that the part wasn't.

Ive got to be totally honest i dont know if the "Sale of goods act cover's 2nd Hand items" thats why i was enquiring, and also why anything i sell threw my Business is "New" and also comes with the Manufacturer's guarantee.

[graemewelch]

your not going to want to hear this but a worn dmf is probobly the cause. the garage that done the work will prob say they advised the dmf should of been replaced to. even if it is the clutch that has failed theres a very good chance that its the excessive play in the dmf thats caused it. hope you get it sorted with out costing you to much

[JamesT5]

Ive got to be totally honest i dont know if the "Sale of goods act cover's 2nd Hand items" thats why i was enquiring, and also why anything i sell threw my Business is "New" and also comes with the Manufacturer's guarantee.

It does cover second hand items mate.

[Harvey]

Sorry to hear this James hope it not to painful on the wallet, it does sound like DMF but the overheating pass on this.

[merc85]

It does cover second hand items mate.

thats cool then bud, i just didnt know. But i do now.