new filter.....what a difference!

**Kingsford G** · Friday 27th December 2013, 21:58

Originally Posted by JamesT5

If I drive like a Granny I can squeeze 30 - 31 average mpg out of it at a push and that's resetting the trip computer for each trip. I usually average 27 - 28 mpg, the terrain around here is very 'up and down' though.

In the summer I could get 33 -35 mpg.

You can always stich yr right foot out to give it an extra torque

**JamesT5** · Friday 27th December 2013, 21:58

Originally Posted by graemewelch

i say if your watching your mpg you shouldnt be driving a t5. our second car is a 307 hdi so we dont need to worry about it.

The T5 has the power when I need it and when the bank account is a bit happier I can have a little fun with the 0 - 60 time. It's still cheaper than running 2 cars and I do like the T5 engine.

**M-R-P** · Friday 27th December 2013, 22:11

we're actually saving money with the starlet. it paid for itself in about 3 or 4 months with the amount of fuel we didn't have to put in the sweed. admittedly, the initial outlay is the difficult bit.

**JamesT5** · Friday 27th December 2013, 22:16

Originally Posted by M-R-P

we're actually saving money with the starlet. it paid for itself in about 3 or 4 months with the amount of fuel we didn't have to put in the sweed. admittedly, the initial outlay is the difficult bit.

To be honest, if I was going to buy another car I'd be buying a D5 as my daily runner.

**JamesT5** · Friday 27th December 2013, 22:55

Originally Posted by JamesT5

To be honest, if I was going to buy another car I'd be buying a D5 as my daily runner.

When I say another car, I mean a second car.

**stribo** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:01

Originally Posted by M-R-P

we're actually saving money with the starlet. it paid for itself in about 3 or 4 months with the amount of fuel we didn't have to put in the sweed. admittedly, the initial outlay is the difficult bit.

No doubt you are mate, but there is no way I'd strap my little boy into a tin can like that. Fair enough it has an o.k. Ncap rating, but like the seat he's in, I want the best for him. The bonus is when he's not strapped into it, I can take it out on track, or the quarter mile, you should have seen the looks I got last year, ragging it around Castle Combe, with his seat still in the back.

**JamesT5** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:08

Originally Posted by stribo

No doubt you are mate, but there is no way I'd strap my little boy into a tin can like that. Fair enough it has an o.k. Ncap rating, but like the seat he's in, I want the best for him. The bonus is when he's not strapped into it, I can take it out on track, or the quarter mile, you should have seen the looks I got last year, ragging it around Castle Combe, with his seat still in the back.

You should have strapped a reborn doll in to his seat for an ultimate jaw dropping look from the crowd.

**stribo** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:20

Originally Posted by JamesT5

You should have strapped a reborn doll in to his seat for an ultimate jaw dropping look from the crowd.

Haha, that would have been funny, his cuddly cow toy was strapped in instead, and was still smiling at the end.

**JamesT5** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:29

Originally Posted by stribo

Haha, that would have been funny, his cuddly cow toy was strapped in instead, and was still smiling at the end.

Well I bet that was a-mooo-zing to watch....

**M-R-P** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:30

Originally Posted by stribo

No doubt you are mate, but there is no way I'd strap my little boy into a tin can like that. Fair enough it has an o.k. Ncap rating, but like the seat he's in, I want the best for him. The bonus is when he's not strapped into it, I can take it out on track, or the quarter mile, you should have seen the looks I got last year, ragging it around Castle Combe, with his seat still in the back.

Fortunately, the only trips he makes in the starlet is through central poole during the daily rush hours. Nothing moves faster than 10mph.

Any way... here's a pic of my shiny new filter...

Anybody know how to clean these things?

**JamesT5** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:31

Originally Posted by M-R-P

Fortunately, the only trips he makes in the starlet is through central poole during the daily rush hours. Nothing moves faster than 10mph.

Any way... here's a pic of my shiny new filter...

Anybody know how to clean these things?

Spray it with a bit of flash and wash it from the inside with the shower mate....... now hang on, that sounds familiar...

**M-R-P** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:33

Originally Posted by JamesT5

Spray it with a bit of flash and wash it from the inside with the shower mate....... now hang on, that sounds familiar...

Lol, I don't think flash is suitable on metal gauze filters mate

**JamesT5** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:34

Originally Posted by M-R-P

Lol, I don't think flash is suitable on metal gauze filters mate

Oh metal? Shot blast the bugger.....

:B_thumb

**M-R-P** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:37

pmsl - I have access to a shotblast machine at work but there's be nothing left by the time it came out the other side

Thinners... I'll give thiners a go when it needs doing

**stribo** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:46

Originally Posted by M-R-P

Fortunately, the only trips he makes in the starlet is through central poole during the daily rush hours. Nothing moves faster than 10mph.

Any way... here's a pic of my shiny new filter...

Anybody know how to clean these things?

Never mind that, where's the cold air feed pipe?

**M-R-P** · Friday 27th December 2013, 23:48

Originally Posted by stribo

Never mind that, where's the cold air feed pipe?

Same place as Smithy's...

**stribo** · Saturday 28th December 2013, 00:10

Originally Posted by M-R-P

Same place as Smithy's...

I can't see the whole of Smithy's filter, so it could be tucked away in the bit that's missing from the photo, or hasn't he got one? Smithy's is a bad example whether he has one or not, as it's parked up in a garage going nowhere.

**M-R-P** · Saturday 28th December 2013, 00:28

Unless the filter is sealed and fitted with a freeflowing feed from the front of the car, it makes no difference at all as the filter will draw air from the path of least resistance, i.e. everywhere else.
So that bit of pipe you have cable-tied in your engine bay is merely adding weight.

**stribo** · Saturday 28th December 2013, 00:47

Now you're just talking ££££££££, if cold air is being fed to the filter, then if not all of it, some of it will be drawn in, dropping the IAT.

**M-R-P** · Saturday 28th December 2013, 00:53

Originally Posted by stribo

Now you're just talking ££££££££, if cold air is being fed to the filter, then if not all of it, some of it will be drawn in, dropping the IAT.

What's the filter gonna be pulling? air from around it or dragging a bit of cold through 2' of twisted pipe? The amount of cold air that'll actually make it down that pipe will be a tiny fraction of what is going in through the intake. I doubt it'll make any difference whatsoever.

I have some 4" flexi in the shed, I'll be more than happy to log my ait's with and without it. I'll even tape it to the end of the filter to make sure it's pulling some air through it, rather than just pointing it at the side of the filter.