Urgent help - brake shoe springs

[Gold 'N' Brown]

I've read the big topic about the common failure caused by the brake shoes delaminating, and the guide on how to do all the work. I've also got a Haynes manual. But I'm struggling to fit my new shoes back on. This is on a Ph2 V70 T5.

To be fair I only had a brief attempt as I got called back in doors half way through. But it seems a real faff trying to get the springs back on, so I'm wondering if there are any tricks or perferred ways to go about this. I've done it in the order that Haynes described. So I'm trying to fit the thicker spring (next to the expander) first. I did briefly try putting the thinner spring on the other side on first, but still seems tricky. Is it really a case of using brute force with pliers to stretch the spring between the shoes (which is bloody difficult without a 3rd hand)? Or am I doing something wrong?

I did wonder if it's worth putting the retaining springs in first so at least the shoes will stay in place while I tackle the other springs. Sounds logical, but I just didn't try it at the time as I was following the Haynes instructions.

[graemewelch]

i think the way i did it was to put one shoe on. then put big spring on other shoe whilst its off. then fit to the hub. hope that makes sense. im sure ive got pics of the brake set up. ill have a look and see if it refreshes my memory

[M-R-P]

Will be watching this - my rears are due soon.

[graemewelch]

Will be watching this - my rears are due soon.

im sure if you ask graham nicley hell sort your rear end for you

[M-R-P]

im sure if you ask graham nicley hell sort your rear end for you

Dude - seriously?


eeewwwwww.....

He was busy trying to lure the lesbian next door with PFV sweeties on Friday lol.

[partsforvolvos.com]

quote stiffler - 'good luck with that forcefield'

remember what happened next - they werent lesbians! maybe graham knows something u don't.
or are they proper butch ?

[M-R-P]

quote stiffler - 'good luck with that forcefield'

remember what happened next - they werent lesbians! maybe graham knows something u don't.
or are they proper butch ?

I wouldn't do 'em with Graham's lol.

Not what I'd call "butch" - they don't wear dungarees or have grade 4, mulitcoloured haircuts or even the kind of face piercings that look like they've gone arse-up in someone's tackle box, just not desirable to anybody with meat 'n two veg

[partsforvolvos.com]

or even the kind of face piercings that look like they've gone arse-up in someone's tackle box, just not desirable to anybody with meat 'n two veg

now THAT was funny. quote of the day easily ...........

[Gold 'N' Brown]

For feck's sake lads! On topic please. I know it's a bit much to ask for on VPC I got all excited thinking there was lots of helpful replies and instead it's all stuff about bumming and lezzers! Except for Graeme's reply....

i think the way i did it was to put one shoe on. then put big spring on other shoe whilst its off. then fit to the hub. hope that makes sense. im sure ive got pics of the brake set up. ill have a look and see if it refreshes my memory

Yeah, I did think this might be the way and also gave it a really quick try. Didn't seem like it was going to work for me as I couldn;t work the spring between the expander thingy and the hub. Seems like you need to get the spring between them first, mount up to one shoe and then stretch it to the other shoe, which is no easy feat.

[graemewelch]

i had a look for a pic but couldnt find one, can you post a pic and ill see if it refreshes me. must be a easy way cause seem to remember i had them dont with in a hour

[M-R-P]

i had a look for a pic but couldnt find one, can you post a pic and ill see if it refreshes me. must be a easy way cause seem to remember i had them dont with in a hour

What, the lesbians?

[partsforvolvos.com]

[QUOTE=Gold 'N' Brown;642685]For feck's sake lads! On topic please. I know it's a bit much to ask for on VPC I got all excited thinking there was lots of helpful replies and instead it's all stuff about bumming and lezzers! Except for Graeme's reply....



sorry

[M-R-P]

We just got told off by a newbie lmao!

[partsforvolvos.com]

he's got a point to be fair, and he did it nicely .

[M-R-P]

he's got a point to be fair, and he did it nicely .

Indeed he did

And if I hadn't put my back out yesterday, I'd go out and strip the hub down on my car and devise a way of doing the shoes, by means of making it up to him

[stephenevans99]

Same here Mr P - watching with interest - not just for the lesbians, but I'll be doing mine later on in the year too.


I'll be fitting the new adjusters at the same time. I've read over on VOC that if you're changing the handbrake shoes, you may as well fit a replacement adjuster. Most have the H bar fitted as circled in red:



which can be replaced by the 'claw' type adjuster:



The benefit for fitting the new adjuster is that the handbrake shoes can now be adjusted through a wheel stud hole for convenience.

Volvo Part numbers are 30793438 for the 'claw' and 30793437 for the 'adjusting link'. I've read that they cost approx £23.

I should imagine that this will be applicable to most if not all P2's - maybe worth looking into to....

[M-R-P]

Nice one Steve

[stribo]

How did a thread manage to go off topic without me and Frankie (verbally)abusing each other.

[T5RatherAmusin]

done mine earlier in the year. wouldve done a how2 but thort noone would need it tbh as its a simple enough job....
loosen from handrake adjuster. get disks off..
grab srings with a needle plier, push in and slide back and out. remember which way it slides back into lock in place.
clean all up including arm.
think i locked the top one in first withspring. then work the side with the arm making sure the bar plate is correctly in place
and get springs back on. sometimes the springs are a lil fiddly and like having them already on helps...
but thats bout it

[stephenevans99]

done mine earlier in the year. wouldve done a how2 but thort noone would need it tbh as its a simple enough job....

We like 'how2s'....even for the simple jobs - with lots of pics 'cos we're speshul