T5 to D5 Power

**S60D5** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 17:45

Hi All,

Sorry for the long post that will ensue, but I'm in a bit of a quandry.

I'm giving some very serious thought to changing my car for something newer, if I do this, I'm able to take advantage of a scheme at my (part time) employment which would pay for part of the price difference between my 850 and the newer car. I would also like something a little newer if I'm honest.

This is where I'm now going round in circles. I'm a car enthusiast, and therefore I love the T5. I love the power and flexibility - I'd go as far as to say the S60R is my ideal car - unfortunately even the lowest price S60R's are £20k, and whilst I could stretch to this at a push, the running costs, such as insurance, would start getting annoying after the initial "rush" of owning the car subdued. I'd also lose a heck of a lot in depreciation! The standard S60 T5's are certainly within reach, and insurance prices aren't too high (I'm 21) so if I went petrol, I'd be looking for a very well specced standard T5 and with my addition of a remap to boost the power nearer to that of the R (but without the AWD )

However, I have taken notice of comments from D5 drivers regarding the performance of the D5, especially once RICA'd. Some people have even dared to suggest that the D5 is as fast as the T5 - something which has certainly made me sit up and take interest in the diesels. I have to admit, the most powerful diesel (car) I have driven is a 136bhp Peugeot 407, but even that felt fast - I can only imagine what a 204bhp RICA'd D5 feels like! That must be phoenomenal! Coupled with diesel fuel economy and that sounds like a very good overall package.

I also do a lot of miles in Europe each year, mostly motorway cruising - this is another major factor in considering the diesels.

One thing I do dislike about (all) diesels is the tractor noise at idle and low speeds.

So, specific question time.

1. Can anyone give me a base comparison between the D5 and T5. I find it hard to get test drives due to my young age

2. What fuel economy could I reasonably expect out of a D5? My driving style tends to be 'sedate' cruising but I like to use the acceleration occasionally!

3. How well insulated is the cabin from external noise? Specifically the engine noise in a diesel?

Any other comments regarding the T5/D5 S60's also appreciated, anything to look out for on either? Is servicing similar to the 850's etc? Likewise, if anyone has gone from a T5 to a D5 I would be very keen to hear your thoughts!

**TangoDeltaSierra3** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 18:16

Adam at VolvoTuning drives a D5 - say no more!

**volvotuning** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 19:25

Originally Posted by T5DJC

1. Can anyone give me a base comparison between the D5 and T5. I find it hard to get test drives due to my young age

2. What fuel economy could I reasonably expect out of a D5? My driving style tends to be 'sedate' cruising but I like to use the acceleration occasionally!

3. How well insulated is the cabin from external noise? Specifically the engine noise in a diesel?

Any other comments regarding the T5/D5 S60's also appreciated, anything to look out for on either? Is servicing similar to the 850's etc? Likewise, if anyone has gone from a T5 to a D5 I would be very keen to hear your thoughts!

1. Specs -

850 T5:

0-60 = 7.2 secs, top speed 149 mph
1/4 mile = about 15.0 s

D5 RICA:

0-60 = 7.2 secs, top speed 140 mph
1/4 mile = about 15.7 s

2. Fuel economy D5:

Hard driving: 36-40 mpg
Normal driving: 40-50 mpg
Very careful crusing: 65 mpg

3. Cabin well insulated, and pretty quiet.

Servicing cheaper than T5.

Adam.

**spesh** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 19:27

[QUOTE=volvotuning]1. Specs -

850 T5:

0-60 = 7.2 secs, top speed 149 mph
1/4 mile = about 15.0 s

D5 RICA:

0-60 = 7.2 secs, top speed 140 mph
1/4 mile = about 15.7 s

Are those figures for a standard T5 and a standard D5??????

**volvotuning** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 19:32

[QUOTE=spesh]

Originally Posted by volvotuning

1. Specs -

850 T5:

0-60 = 7.2 secs, top speed 149 mph
1/4 mile = about 15.0 s

D5 RICA:

0-60 = 7.2 secs, top speed 140 mph
1/4 mile = about 15.7 s

Are those figures for a standard T5 and a standard D5??????

Look above ^^^

D5 RICA

Adam.

**Andy** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 19:33

Cabin is very quied

Fuel economy 45mpg +

Power = enough to pull a house down (torque wise, same as standard T5 remember)

I LOVE MINE!!!!!

**Andy** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 19:35

Oh, and at idle speed you do get that diesel noise but put ya foot down and ooohhh myyy god its got a very unique and sexual (yeah sexual) 5 pot burble

**spesh** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 19:41

Originally Posted by volvotuning

Look above ^^^

D5 RICA

Adam.

Silly spesh!!!! But thats not fair!!!!! the D5 has been modded, and who runs 15.0's a a standard 850?????? lol, still not fair, oil burner, red diesel, so not fair!!! cooking oil so not fair!!!

**siamblue** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 19:54

I went out in the standard XC90 D5 185 yesterday loads of torque over 400nm, lovely burble too, not bad for a 2.2 ton car.

**spesh** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 19:55

Originally Posted by siamblue

I went out in the standard XC90 D5 185 yesterday loads of torque over 400nm, lovely burble too, not bad for a 2.2 ton car.

Only 400NM thought these D5's were good?????

**siamblue** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 20:08

That was standard spesh well thats what the girl said to us, it went well will go even better once remapped i assume?

**Andy** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 20:15

Originally Posted by siamblue

That was standard spesh well thats what the girl said to us, it went well will go even better once remapped i assume?

Oh yes 220bhp ish

**spesh** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 20:53

Im sorry if i have upset anyone, diesel's aint crap they just aint as good as petrols lol, opps here i go again, I guess i'm just a PETROL head, lol

Andrew · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 21:04

Originally Posted by spesh

Im sorry if i have upset anyone, diesel's aint crap they just aint as good as petrols lol, opps here i go again, I guess i'm just a PETROL head, lol

All the rich folk drive diesels

**spesh** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 21:18

Originally Posted by Andrew

All the rich folk drive diesels

Now im just lost!!!!!

**dave** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 21:31

Originally Posted by spesh

Only 400NM thought these D5's were good?????

and that torque will be top of the peak, which only last for a very short period, it will not hold that level of torque from say 2000 - 5000rpm, which a petrol turbo volvo would hold it there

dave

**spesh** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 21:38

dont start now dave, these poor D5 driver are upset enough as it is with there oil burners!!

**volvotuning** · Sunday 23rd October 2005, 21:39

Originally Posted by dave

and that torque will be top of the peak, which only last for a very short period, it will not hold that level of torque from say 2000 - 5000rpm, which a petrol turbo volvo would hold it there

dave

OK, I have said in the past that a tuned D5 is a suitable alternative to a stock T5, including performance. If the D5 is tuned, it will have more torque than the stock T5 up to 4500 rpm, which is also available from around 1700 rpm.

Adam.