Clutch advice

[JamesT5]

The Gearbox specialist is saying that I need to buy a 3 piece clutch kit which includes a "thrust bearing" if I want my clutch changed, yet all the ones I'm finding are 2 piece clutch sets which is really starting get on my nerves.

Can a I buy a 2 piece clutch set and then buy a thrust bearing seperately or am I stuck with going to a Main Stealer to buy a 3 piece clutch set? Also, why are there so many 2 piece sets for sale and nor 3 piece sets? If it's necessary to have the bearing when you change the clutch then why aren't all the sets for sale as a 3 piece set!

Am I missing the obvious here? Any advice is appreciated.....

Regards

James

[partsforvolvos.com]

hi james, if this is for the v70 in the photo it is because it has a concentric slave cylinder. this means the release bearing and slave cylinder are made into one part.

most clutch kits for these models ( all 1999 on ) are 2 piece (clutch/plarte and drive plate ) and the concentric slave cylinder is purchased seperately.
there are a few 3 piece kits out there, but i dont know that they offer a significantly better price. we chose to offer the 2 piece kit and the seperate cylinder.

you have been given sound advice though, since the gearbox has to come off to replace the clutch and it is a related wear and tear part, it would be silly not to replace it at the same time.
pm me your reg, and i'll provide a quote if you like.


hope this helps.
Jamie

[M-R-P]

This so called "specialist" is worrying me James. The thrust bearing on our cars is part of the slave cylinder.
The clutch kit (the 2 part thing) LUK part number 624225509 £118 incl VAT and delivery from click4carparts on ebay.
slave was 510 0010 10 LUK £80+VAT from GSF
The DMF which I HIGHLY RECOMMEND CHANGING is LUK part number 415 0178 10, £315+VAT from GSF.

[M-R-P]

You'll also need flywheel bolts and driveshaft seals. I also recommend getting them to change the rear main seal while they have the flywheel off

[Wobbly Dave]

Endorse the do it once & do it properly approach

[M-R-P]

Endorse the do it once & do it properly approach

This specialist has already said he's never known the DMF fail on a petrol car...

I wouldn't want to see James fork out all that money on labor, only to have to take it all apart again when the DMF lets - go.

It might be a few hundred extra now but it'll save another few hundred later. Especially when we're talking about a car with 230+k on the clock.

[Wobbly Dave]

DMF on mine was complately kneckered.

[JamesT5]

Thanks chaps. The thing is, there is no room in the budget for a DMF at the moment and I'm stretching it by having to buy a clutch. If I had the money for a new DMF then I'd buy a new DMF but unless I can get one on a shoe string it just isn't going to happen.

So I can get a 2 piece clutch set plus I buy the bearing thing as a seperate part? I wonder if these are any good, their 'new' Police surplus......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-VO...item460e6604ae

[M-R-P]

Mine too - I separated it with a screwdriver!

[M-R-P]

So I can get a 2 piece clutch set plus I buy the bearing thing as a seperate part? I wonder if these are any good, their 'new' Police surplus......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-VO...item460e6604ae

It'll most likely be the 23 tooth version - you need the 20 tooth from what I can make out. I bought the one I listed above thinking it'll fit fine, only to find that being plod - I needed the one you've listed lol. They're 212 quid for mine.

Check with PFV but I'm sure you'll find the one you want is what I've listed at £118.

There's a very good chance the mechanic will remove the gearbox and go.. "your DMF is shot..." If you can find the extra money mate, sell a kidney or something lol, You should expect to have to get a new DMF as a matter of course.

It sucks, I know

[JamesT5]

I'll PM PFV! This car is slowly bankrupting me hence I've had to stoop so low as to buy as second hand box. The box on the car right now is starting to sound so bad that I can't wait 6 months to save up for a reconditioned box, by which time the box will cease and this will almost certainly 'total' the car!

As this job is so urgent, I'm having to take a gamble on the DMF which doesn't seem to be rattling or making any noise to indicate it's faulty. When it does eventually fail, then I'll have to pay out to have it removed and replaced at which point I'll have all the comments, "we told you so, you should have had it done in May like we said". But that's life, my wallet can't take any more!



It's booked in for the 10th May (pay day!).

[V70 Graham]

It does suck.....but I'm afraid he's right.

[JamesT5]

I think I might draw up a constitution and set up a registered charity to keep this car on the road. LMAO!

[JamesT5]

Btw, cheapest DMF I could find on ebay on a quick search....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-V70-...item35b75c68d8

[M-R-P]

I'll PM PFV! This car is slowly bankrupting me hence I've had to stoop so low as to buy as second hand box. The box on the car right now is starting to sound so bad that I can't wait 6 months to save up for a reconditioned box, by which time the box will cease and this will almost certainly 'total' the car!

As this job is so urgent, I'm having to take a gamble on the DMF which doesn't seem to be rattling or making any noise to indicate it's faulty. When it does eventually fail, then I'll have to pay out to have it removed and replaced at which point I'll have all the comments, "we told you so, you should have had it done in May like we said". But that's life, my wallet can't take any more!



It's booked in for the 10th May (pay day!).

I know what you mean mate. Fingers crossed it'll be ok. My DMF didn't make any noises (discovered the chirping was the water pump). It'll depend on the mechanic's idea of "knackered" too. He might feel a bit of movement and say it's fine.

[M-R-P]

Btw, cheapest DMF I could find on ebay on a quick search....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-V70-...item35b75c68d8

GSF

They're on fleabay too.

[JamesT5]

GSF

They're on fleabay too.

Ok, time to sell a kidney on ebay..... (just kidding)

[Wobbly Dave]

The springs on mine were completely shot. I haemorrhage cash too on Betsy. This last week alone - new steering rack - yet another wheel bearing - new sump (thankfully I had a spare) - not to mention the insurance & now the S40 is chirpily telling me it needs a service. Rapidly running out of arms & legs.

[M-R-P]

You can see on this pic, I have a 19mm spanner wedged between the 2 parts of my old DMF...



There was no springs left in it apart from a few fragments rattling around inside.

[V70 Graham]

I haemorrhage cash too on Betsy.....

.....rapidly running out of arms & legs.

Aren't we all lol, I've been hopping around for ages !