TC's V70R resurrection thread.

[Tomcat]

Will do, I've got him on facebook so I'll give him a shout. Cheers.

[Tomcat]

Well, that's it!!. Now got a snapped extractor stuck in the end of the snapped head bolt. New engine time I think, baring a miracle it'll be the end of April before I can get one though

[jamesy12345]

Well, that's it!!. Now got a snapped extractor stuck in the end of the snapped head bolt. New engine time I think, baring a miracle it'll be the end of April before I can get one though

...not good...no chance of getting the extractor out? Post a picture up maybe someone will have an idea

[Tomcat]

Cant even see it bud, the whole lot is a good 5 or 6 cm's down inside the block. I'm just going to leave it for now and get back to it when I have more time/money. I dont think it's going to be fixable as that bolt is in there really tight (hence why it snapped), think the best way forward is to just replace the bottom end.

[jamesy12345]

Cant even see it bud, the whole lot is a good 5 or 6 cm's down inside the block. I'm just going to leave it for now and get back to it when I have more time/money. I dont think it's going to be fixable as that bolt is in there really tight (hence why it snapped), think the best way forward is to just replace the bottom end.

££££££££.....I went through the same thing but must have been lucky, keep an eye out for a cheap RN bottom end...

[Doingitsideways]

££££!

Bad times Craig!

Was it the extraction guy. Or did you have a go yourself?

[Tomcat]

Weird, thought I'd updated this thread recently.

I've now managed to purchase a complete engine to replace the now defunct one in my R, there's no point trying to get this stud out, it's too far down inside the block and with the extractor now stuck in it as well there's bugger all chance.

The last few days have been spent removing stuff and getting it ready for the new engine, with the help of Mr Sideways today we've managed to get everything removed (driveshafts as well) and get the subframe almost on the floor. This car seems to have a large appetite for tools, todate it's broken two breaker bars, a torq wrench and now a teng ratchet. All of them where broken (bar the ratchet) trying to undo the drive shaft nuts, these buggers where on mega tight. The driverside one we've had to leave attached to the hub and just removed the strut and driveshaft as one.

The only thing stopping me from removing the engine totaly now is the fluid line going to the clutch internal slave, I cannot for the life of me see how it's attached.

[Doingitsideways]

Not managed to get my crane in any of the shots then?!

After lumping that thing into my boot, I'd have thought it at least deserves to be in shot!
That thing weighs more than your engine!!

I have pics myself, of Craig looking mightily fed up with all this, but I won't put them up.
(Only because Photobucket won't work on my phone! )

[Tomcat]

Thanks again for today Ste.

[Doingitsideways]

No worries Matey

Let me know if you need to borrow the S70 to tide you over.

[Biff]

Good effort lads, don't give up Craig these things were sent to test us... Just keep thinking of the finished article & being out in the R again.

[Tomcat]

Well, engines out and now sat on the floor outside (in the rain) with no head on it. As it's now effectively only usefull as a boat anchor there didn't seem any point in taking it inside. Gearbox is now in the garage being cleaned up (it was absolutely filthy), once it's clean I'm not sure what to do with it, I'd like to check the diff bearings but I'm terrified of opening up the gearbox lol. I may just take it to a gearbox centre and ask them to give it a once over for me.

Before

During

[MoleT-5R]

It's surprisingly easy to open up the gearbox, but you will then have to sealant it back together afterwards, there's a thread on vs re a quaife install that shows how to open up the box, but you just want to check play in the diff bearings opening it up may not help much as there tappered, you'll be better off just popping the shafts back in and checking for play or as you say take it to a gearbox guy for complete peace of mind

[Tomcat]

Yeah I think I'll take it in somewhere as I want to get rid of this horrible noise. Not really sure if it's gearbox, diff, clutch or drive shafts tbh.. I know it didn't really get any worse over the 8 or 9 months I heard it for but it is annoying.

[Tomcat]

Well the old engine is now in a pile of pieces, and the NEW engine has arrived.. I say new like that because it looks anything but new, apparently it's had wildlife living on it for a while and they weren't toilet trained.

After removing the old engine I was trying to decide what I should do about the weird noise I've been experiencing that could have been gearbox,flywheel or clutch related. After removing the old flywheel today and watching a few video's about them on youtube I'm thinking it could actually be the DMF that's been the cause of the odd noise. The sprung face of the flywheel can be moved around very easily, need to double check tomorrow if there's any rattle to it as that would definitley indicate a knackered flywheel. If this is in fact the cause then I will be trying to pick up a single mass flywheel off an 850 and also an 850R clutch, I'm not going to risk fitting another second hand DMF that may only last another few thousand miles before failing as well.

New engine has been stripped down a little so I could clean up the block and throw some paint on it, there was no way I could stick it in the car looking like it did even if it is a freshly rebuilt motor. It has now been mostly painted silver and the head has been painted crackle black. hopefully in the coming weeks I can see about getting it fitted (provided I can spare the time away from my studies to get it done that is)


Engine As it arrived (well bare a few bits that have been removed)




Stripped and Painted.

[Tomcat]

Had a minor problem while the egine was partially stripped. It rained over night and the bin bag that was taped over the top of it moved, the sparkplug holes have filled with water and one of the plugs was lose. I now have water sat in one of the bores.

How the hell do I remove that?..

[jamesy12345]

Had a minor problem while the egine was partially stripped. It rained over night and the bin bad that was taped over the top of it moved, the sparkplug holes have filled with water and one of the plugs was lose. I now have water sat in one of the bores.

How the hell do I remove that?..

siphon/sponge out what you can then heat it up! By sponge I mean cut something absorbent into thin strips

[Tomcat]

Not got around to the water yet as the weathers been pants anyway. I did however manage to have a second look at the DMF today and upon closer inspection it looks fine, there's minimal movement in the springs and no movement at all in the centre bearing. Not really sure where to go with this now as I could still stick a SMF in it just to remove the possibility of it failing at a later date, this also means I'll have to buy a none DMF clutch though. Together with the new flywheel it's going to cost me nigh on £300 to swap it out (that's not including switching to an external slave if I have to).

If the Flywheel is currently ok, and the clutch was definitley ok (no slipping etc) then the only possible source of the whine would be the gearbox. As most places are wanting at least £150-£250 just to open mine up and tell me whats wrong with it I may just go for a replacement gearbox instead. Wish there was as cheaper way of getting around all this but sadly there doesn't seem to be. Still need to buy a few other bits for the suspension and also pay for the new downpipe I'm having made.

[MoleT-5R]

Not got around to the water yet as the weathers been pants anyway. I did however manage to have a second look at the DMF today and upon closer inspection it looks fine, there's minimal movement in the springs and no movement at all in the centre bearing. Not really sure where to go with this now as I could still stick a SMF in it just to remove the possibility of it failing at a later date, this also means I'll have to buy a none DMF clutch though. Together with the new flywheel it's going to cost me nigh on £300 to swap it out (that's not including switching to an external slave if I have to).

If the Flywheel is currently ok, and the clutch was definitley ok (no slipping etc) then the only possible source of the whine would be the gearbox. As most places are wanting at least £150-£250 just to open mine up and tell me whats wrong with it I may just go for a replacement gearbox instead. Wish there was as cheaper way of getting around all this but sadly there doesn't seem to be. Still need to buy a few other bits for the suspension and also pay for the new downpipe I'm having made.

the internal slave should be fine if you swap to smf, as I ran that set-up on my low ratio box before I killed it (oil has it's uses....lol)....does the box whine in all gears or just one or two, does it go when you accelerate and return on the over run..??

[Tomcat]

the internal slave should be fine if you swap to smf, as I ran that set-up on my low ratio box before I killed it (oil has it's uses....lol)....does the box whine in all gears or just one or two, does it go when you accelerate and return on the over run..??

It's more noticeable around 20-30 mph when coasting down in speed, can't really hear it at motorway speeds and it doesn't seem to matter what gear it's in, also pushing the clutch in doesn't make much if any difference.