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    Lowering your S60r/V70R

    Hi all.
    I know many people have spoken about this before and lots of to do's, what to do's and what not to do's but seeing as (not meaning to blow my own trumpet) i have lowered and do NOT have any issues with rubbing wheel arches then i thought i share some preps.

    I am currently running 18" Pegs with 235/40ZR18 Vredestein Sessanta's. Lowered on Eibach Pro kit with a 30mm drop allround.
    Also i have TPi black alloy spacers 12mm front / 15mm rear.

    I will post photos in a sec but make sure that you have brand new 'Black' steering stops (available from Volvo or PFV) fitted.

    Also, while your at the dealer purchase and fit these....



    They protect your wheel arch liners from being ripped out should you hit a bump whilst turning and driving....and resulting in the following damage...



    Here they are fitted....




    Lowered my car looks like....






    I can assure one and all that i do NOT suffer with rubbing or scraping wheel archs or liners.

    Top tip. Make sure you purchase and fit the Volvo Alloy underbelly protector plate before lowering. Trust me, it will save your sump as i have since lowering scraped mine quite a few times, mainly on stupid middle of the road sleeping policeman and the odd edge of a pothole on rough bumpy ground. Its there to do a job and it does it very well!
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    So how much roughly for the complete set up Lee??? Good write up BTW
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    Looks a little pricey, but you've done a proper job.
    Like volvokid said, what's the cost break down?
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    Are the wheel arch liner jobbies universal or only for phase 2?
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    think they're fitted for P2 mate, although they look nothing like the ones I have on mine, which are metal.
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    Hold on... Just had a look through my pics and found this...

    Looks like sombody's is upside down and looking at the marks on it, it'll be mine. no wonder I thought it was different! Gonna have a word with the guys who changed my timing belt...
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    Good tips there Lee, I've still got the lowering springs waiting to go on our S60R, just waiting for the wife, as she's not sure she want's it lowered now. With the wheel spacers fitted, do you need longer wheel bolts?

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    Looks spot on mate whats the ride like now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by volvokid View Post
    So how much roughly for the complete set up Lee??? Good write up BTW
    Parts

    Lower suspension arm steering limiter (black) 18mm - PFV - £5.76 each x 2
    http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/...oducts_id=5084
    Aluminium protecting plate (Volvo only) 9451784 - £128.36
    981495 plastic nut x 2 (volvo) - £1.38
    9190823 protecting plate (Volvo) - £11.22
    9190824 protecting plate (Volvo) - £11.22
    Eibach Pro kit - £170 delivered
    TPi alloy spacers (pair) eBay - £65 x 2 (total £130)
    Front Spring support plate (HLM) - £56 each

    Fitting

    Elitedirect, Essex - 4 wheel alighnment - £49.95
    Elitedirect, Essex - £50 per corner (fitting)


    Quote Originally Posted by Wobbly Dave View Post
    Are the wheel arch liner jobbies universal or only for phase 2?
    Only for P2.

    Quote Originally Posted by martinrpeachey View Post
    think they're fitted for P2 mate, although they look nothing like the ones I have on mine, which are metal.
    Yes, they are metal, painted black.

    Quote Originally Posted by stribo View Post
    Good tips there Lee, I've still got the lowering springs waiting to go on our S60R, just waiting for the wife, as she's not sure she want's it lowered now. With the wheel spacers fitted, do you need longer wheel bolts?
    Yes. Order the longer bolts when you order the spacers. Bin your locking wheel nuts as 1) there agro 2) you won't need them anyway!
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_cowen View Post
    Looks spot on mate whats the ride like now?
    How i like it. Smooth on flat roads. Comfy on the motorway. Precise. Goes round corners on rails and remains flat. No roll, unless you push it in Comfort mode. In Sport its the best of both worlds. Comfy on motorway but you feel all the squashed flies on the tarmac. Not too bad on normal roads. Gotta go comfort on the rough stuff else its all over the place.

    When i ever get into Advanced....well.....its proper Bo selector!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by martinrpeachey View Post
    Hold on... Just had a look through my pics and found this...

    Looks like sombody's is upside down and looking at the marks on it, it'll be mine. no wonder I thought it was different! Gonna have a word with the guys who changed my timing belt...
    LOL, MUPPETS!!! How the hell they manage that? It only goes on one way
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    Very posh Lee. I am not usually a fan of modifications but this is very subtle. In fact I can confess that I am "wel jel"! Nice one.

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    Important

    You will also need these to be fitted before you lower else when you drop your car on the floor your rear camber will be at least -2.50 degrees!! That will not look good and it will be dangerous to drive as all the rear alighnment is thrown miles out. Mine crabbed badly for 50 miles to the alighnment center.

    Expensive but an absolute must. You must fit them to their maximum setting which is 1.50* degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeT5 View Post
    You will also need these to be fitted before you lower else when you drop your car on the floor your rear camber will be at least -2.50 degrees!! That will not look good and it will be dangerous to drive as all the rear alighnment is thrown miles out. Mine crabbed badly for 50 miles to the alighnment center.

    Expensive but an absolute must. You must fit them to their maximum setting which is 1.50* degrees.
    Need what fitting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stribo View Post
    Need what fitting?


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    Will they need to be set after fitting the springs & while doing the 4 wheel alignment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_cowen View Post
    Looks spot on mate whats the ride like now?
    On Eibachs I personally found the ride too harsh/crashy which I thought let the name down because they've been awesome springs on my mates cars.

    I didn't find the original setup needed anything else and in fact I was disappointed that the Eibachs, in my opinion, completely cancelled out the comfort setting. Comfort and sport felt VERY similar and advanced was ridiculous...

    Quote Originally Posted by LeeT5 View Post
    How i like it. Smooth on flat roads. Comfy on the motorway. Precise. Goes round corners on rails and remains flat. No roll, unless you push it in Comfort mode. In Sport its the best of both worlds. Comfy on motorway but you feel all the squashed flies on the tarmac. Not too bad on normal roads. Gotta go comfort on the rough stuff else its all over the place.

    When i ever get into Advanced....well.....its proper Bo selector!!!!
    ...but i'm glad you haven't experienced this, maybe the roads round here are just poor in comparison?

    As for rubbing, I think the tyre wall can have a lot to do with it, even with the same tyre size two different tyres can be the difference between rub and no rub. The Vreds were the tyre that I was running and after I fitted new black stops it almost eliminated it completely.

    Remember to recalibrate the SUM after shock removal and refit ESPECIALLY when lowering and if the VIDA/DICE kicks back an error message that the car is too low on the rear end, simply jack it up a few milimetres at a time until it accepts the parameters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_cowen View Post
    Will they need to be set after fitting the springs & while doing the 4 wheel alignment?
    You need to fit these either during or immediately after but NOT before. Best to fit during as it will need a full wheel alighnment anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeds_finest View Post
    On Eibachs I personally found the ride too harsh/crashy which I thought let the name down because they've been awesome springs on my mates cars.

    I didn't find the original setup needed anything else and in fact I was disappointed that the Eibachs, in my opinion, completely cancelled out the comfort setting. Comfort and sport felt VERY similar and advanced was ridiculous...
    ...That's because you never had the latest SUM UPDATE! If you did then the crashy harsh ride is illiminated and the shocks work as they should. I can assure you all there is a definate difference between Comfort and sport.
    I have brand new shocks on my car too, so i guess thats makes a big difference. The biggest difference i noticed after fitting new shocks is that the car didn't lul about in Comfort mode. It felt more stable and certainly had a crispness to it. The nose didn't pitch and roll either! Was even better after the SUM UPDATE and calibrate.. Superb!!! is all i can say.

    Remember, if your car has done 80 - 100K and still on oe shocks then its time to replace (all of them).
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