Y reg Ph 2 V70 T5 - sudden loss of power - cut out

[Daniel B]

Hello gents,

after a bit of help here if you are able.

I took delivery of a 61000 mile 2001 T5 recently, and had it immediately converted to LPG by Fassi off of this forum.

It's so far run for approx 3500 miles since that conversion, including 2500 miles down through Europe and back, finishing just 10 days ago.

Not long after the conversion it had a full cambelt service at the same Volvo garage the previous owner (My gf's Dad) had used.

It's had a few trips once back, and all had been fairly fine I thought, no issues at all.

So tonight, my gf was driving it back from her band practice, a distance of about 8 miles, and this happened, I am paraphrasing in some instances.

She was driving uphill, and thought to herself that it wasn't really pulling up the hill, put her foot down a bit, and then she said the revs dropped completely, then the lights went out.
She stopped, well had no choice really, and put the hazards on.

She tried to start the car, but it turned, but refused to catch.
She switched it off LPG, and tried petrol, same issue.
She tried the sidelights, and got nothing, she turned them off, left it a few minutes, tried again and they came on.
She tried to start it again, it caught, but as soon as she released the key it died again.
She rang me, and then rang the breakdown company, then she rang me again, and she tried to start it again, this time it started.
No warning lights anywhere, and as far as she can tell no warning lights anywhere before it unexpectedly stopped on her.

I got her to back it up to a nearby driveway, as she was on the mainroad, and as it sat there idleing for a bit she decided to try and make it the 3 miles or so home - happily it made it back ok, but it's rather worrying, if it might just lose all power/lights/powersteering like this :-(

Not sure if this is of any relevance, but on Wednesday I drove it to work, it's only 20 miles each way, and when I came back, I popped the bonnet to show my brother the LPG install, and he noted how hot the front of the engine bay was - it was the same tonight, after a relatively short journey, and I wonder if this might be part of the issue, although surely wome warning lights, or the temperature guage would have flagged this up?

I'm not really sure what to do with it now, I certainly do not want to take it to work tomorrow, in case it does this to me on the M4, and I am not even sure what I would ask a garage, can they plug in a computer and interrogate the ecu?

If I do take it to a garage, I am not sure to take it my local non volvo specialist, or to try and get it all the way down to Southampton, and hope it doesn't pull this trick on me down the M3.

Pretty dissapointed at the mo, have just given away my year 2000 Nissan Primera to my brother, which has never broken down!

Has anyone experienced this behaviour before on a T5, and if so what are the likely outcomes.......?

Many thanks

Dan

[Wobbly Dave]

Likely candidates include ETM fault - crank position sensor. Need fault codes.Difficult to say, without knowing the full facts.

[M-R-P]

Where abouts are you mate? I can check Yours codes for you. As Dave said, possibly etm, is it magnetti marelli or bosch?
Getting they codes read will most likely give you a definative abswer,

[Daniel B]

Hi gents, thanks for the replies.

Thanks for the offer Martin, i'm in Newbury.
Sharps autos is the local garage I tend to use here.

Is there an easy way to tell whether its bosch or marelli?

Am I correct in thinking the ETM is the £700 part.....?

[M-R-P]

Bosch on the left marelli on the right.
Also, if it's a marelli, look to see if it has a white or yellow sticker.
A yellow sticker would indicate a "fixed" unit.

To be honest, ETM failure is often preceeded by lumpy idle, poor throttle control around town, random stalling and warning lights coming on.

Best get the codes read and get a clearer picture.

[JamesT5]

Is it me or this thread frightfully similar to the 'Misfire' thread I posted some time ago? In other words, having stripped the ETM down for a clean on mine I'll see if I can help as well.

Regards

James

[JamesT5]

Hello gents,

after a bit of help here if you are able.

I took delivery of a 61000 mile 2001 T5 recently, and had it immediately converted to LPG by Fassi off of this forum.

It's so far run for approx 3500 miles since that conversion, including 2500 miles down through Europe and back, finishing just 10 days ago.

Not long after the conversion it had a full cambelt service at the same Volvo garage the previous owner (My gf's Dad) had used.

It's had a few trips once back, and all had been fairly fine I thought, no issues at all.

So tonight, my gf was driving it back from her band practice, a distance of about 8 miles, and this happened, I am paraphrasing in some instances.

She was driving uphill, and thought to herself that it wasn't really pulling up the hill, put her foot down a bit, and then she said the revs dropped completely, then the lights went out.
She stopped, well had no choice really, and put the hazards on.

She tried to start the car, but it turned, but refused to catch.
She switched it off LPG, and tried petrol, same issue.
She tried the sidelights, and got nothing, she turned them off, left it a few minutes, tried again and they came on.
She tried to start it again, it caught, but as soon as she released the key it died again.
She rang me, and then rang the breakdown company, then she rang me again, and she tried to start it again, this time it started.
No warning lights anywhere, and as far as she can tell no warning lights anywhere before it unexpectedly stopped on her.

I got her to back it up to a nearby driveway, as she was on the mainroad, and as it sat there idleing for a bit she decided to try and make it the 3 miles or so home - happily it made it back ok, but it's rather worrying, if it might just lose all power/lights/powersteering like this :-(

Not sure if this is of any relevance, but on Wednesday I drove it to work, it's only 20 miles each way, and when I came back, I popped the bonnet to show my brother the LPG install, and he noted how hot the front of the engine bay was - it was the same tonight, after a relatively short journey, and I wonder if this might be part of the issue, although surely wome warning lights, or the temperature guage would have flagged this up?

I'm not really sure what to do with it now, I certainly do not want to take it to work tomorrow, in case it does this to me on the M4, and I am not even sure what I would ask a garage, can they plug in a computer and interrogate the ecu?

If I do take it to a garage, I am not sure to take it my local non volvo specialist, or to try and get it all the way down to Southampton, and hope it doesn't pull this trick on me down the M3.

Pretty dissapointed at the mo, have just given away my year 2000 Nissan Primera to my brother, which has never broken down!

Has anyone experienced this behaviour before on a T5, and if so what are the likely outcomes.......?

Many thanks

Dan

Hi Dan

First of all, don't pay a garage to read your codes as most charge about £30 for a read which quite frankly is a rip off. Go on to something like ebay and buy yourself and OBD2 fault code reader. I paid less than £30 for mine but I can read my own fault codes at any time, any place and as often as I like for a one off investment.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D900-Unive...item19d0d7cf72

The OBD2 socket is on the drivers side under a flap labelled OBDII, to the right of the accelerator pedal on the bottom of the dash. Plug the code reader in there, go to the read DTC's page on the reader, read the codes and write them down on some paper. My D900 code reader will also, like a lot of other readers, tell me what the code means too.

So then post the codes here on the forum and then I'm certain someone will be able to tell you exactly what the problem is.

I did this and I was able to diagnose my faulty ignition coils and fix the problem with the help of a number of members on here and without the costly garage bills.

Good luck and please keep us updated.

Regards

James

[Daniel B]

Hello all,

sorry for the massive delay - had just started a new job (Can't believe it is 3 months ago now) which has proved rather intense, and needed plenty of long hours, and no time to browse the web during the day

Anyway, the outcome was that technically the T5 is my gf's car, so she decided to ring the garage to see what they could come up with, and they're only suggestion was that it had received some bad fuel - or gas in this case.

We have been driving her since with no issues, touch wood, so hopefully it was just a one off.

Thankyou for all the replies, and apologies for my laxness at replying.

Dan

[M-R-P]

glad it's all sorted mate.