Are ph2 cars expensive to maintain?

**Tomcat** · Monday 4th June 2012, 20:44

Whilst looking around for cars Ive seen a few cheap phase 2 cars,are they still expensive to repair/maintain?, is the ETM / DMF still expensive to sort?

**Santa** · Monday 4th June 2012, 20:46

They can be depending on failures but normal servicing costs like cambelt changes etc are relatively cheap. (I think)

**Wobbly Dave** · Monday 4th June 2012, 20:49

ETM is a lot cheaper that it used to be. DMF - I am not sure. Mine lasted till 155K.

**Tomcat** · Monday 4th June 2012, 21:08

I read somewhere today that it could be done for sub 200 for the etm, is this true?.

**Wobbly Dave** · Monday 4th June 2012, 21:15

Not sure - I had mine replaced when they were still expensive. 2nd hand units are cheaper.

I thought the main issue with the phase 2 is the diabolical turning circle.

**Tomcat** · Monday 4th June 2012, 21:17

Oh, lol, not heard about that...

**LiamT4** · Monday 4th June 2012, 21:20

Originally Posted by Wobbly Dave

Not sure - I had mine replaced when they were still expensive. 2nd hand units are cheaper.

I thought the main issue with the phase 2 is the diabolical turning circle.

Originally Posted by Tomcat

Oh, lol, not heard about that...

Aircraft carriers have a better turning circle. lol

**M-R-P** · Monday 4th June 2012, 21:52

Past 2004, etm, dim and other electrical gremlins were fixed. Dmf will cost you circa 500 quid. Other than that, they're bloody great

**S1mon** · Monday 4th June 2012, 23:04

On my S60 I've just changed oil/air/pollen/fuel filters, engine and gearbox oil, polybushed front lower control arms and had 4 wheel alignment adjusted. I used genuine parts and fitted it all myself so no labour there and all costed £230. I think that's pretty reasonable for a full service. My cambelt has already been changed but they're only ~£100 for a genuine kit. Only thing I think is expensive that will fail if it hasn't been done already is the alarm siren module. £160.

**JamesT5** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 00:03

Originally Posted by Tomcat

Whilst looking around for cars Ive seen a few cheap phase 2 cars,are they still expensive to repair/maintain?, is the ETM / DMF still expensive to sort?

I think it depends what goes wrong and when. I haven't spent a fortune on mine but have had lots of niggles with it. Mind you, it has got 225,000+ on the clock!

Regards

James

**JamesT5** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 00:05

Originally Posted by martinrpeachey

Past 2004, etm, dim and other electrical gremlins were fixed. Dmf will cost you circa 500 quid. Other than that, they're bloody great

Oh yes, "electical gremlins", my worst enemy!

**t5_monkey** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 00:19

well my clutch isn't looking too cheap !

**M-R-P** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 08:58

Originally Posted by t5_monkey

well my clutch isn't looking too cheap !

150 for clutch, 120 for slave 500+ for DMF (lightened one is 250-350)

cheap shocks are about 130 a pair, good ones are up to 220.

front 305s are 86 for OE Brembos

10 quid for track rods

hub carrier bolts are 13 quid a set

rubber shock top mounts are 30 quid a pair, as are the top mount bearings.

OE top engine mount is 20 quid, poly is 25.

lower mounts are the same as P1/850

These are all GSF/Euro prices.

Everything is bigger on a p2 - where you would find M12 bolts holding the hub to the shock on the 850, it's M14 on P2 etc. etc.

**Harvey** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 09:03

Standard service parts are about the same as most car's this size,it's when the odd stuf goes wrong that the tears start to flow.

**d2k** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 10:27

Originally Posted by Tomcat

I read somewhere today that it could be done for sub 200 for the etm, is this true?.

yep....... www.volvodiagnostic.com

the guy's name is Lukas, he'll repair & give 2yr warranty on all earlier ME7 ETM's for £120.

he'll also fix & give 2yr warranty on any failing P2 DIM cluster for £50 (not including delivery)

he also does electronic ABS repairs too.....

he's still on his hols at the moment but will be back in about 2 weeks.....

**local-looney** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 18:49

Originally Posted by Wobbly Dave

Not sure - I had mine replaced when they were still expensive. 2nd hand units are cheaper.

I thought the main issue with the phase 2 is the diabolical turning circle.

never a truer word spoke!!

its s***!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mind you,had mine 6 months now,nothing fell off,nothing broke....oh s***..thats done it!!

**Sharkey R** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 18:51

Originally Posted by Wobbly Dave

Not sure - I had mine replaced when they were still expensive. 2nd hand units are cheaper.

I thought the main issue with the phase 2 is the diabolical turning circle.

Get used to wearing dark glasses and a hat or cap to hide your embarrassment when trying to park in a busy car park. Very little chance of getting in a space first time if there's cars either side.

**Tomcat** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 19:27

I think barring a sudden influx of cash that allows me to buy a ph2 V70R I'll be giving the whole Ph2 thing a miss for the time being, they're still out of my price range while I have sod all money.

**LeeT5** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 19:32

Originally Posted by Wobbly Dave

I thought the main issue with the phase 2 is the diabolical turning circle.

..Only on the R. FWDs are much better.

**LeeT5** · Tuesday 5th June 2012, 19:34

Originally Posted by JamesT5

Oh yes, "electical gremlins", my worst enemy!

Your just unlucky James!

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