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    Wink WHP Rolling Road Leader Board?

    Just a thought, Seeing as we have a Flywheel Power Leader Board wouldnt it be a interesting to have a Wheel Horse Power Leader board to compare with?

    After all thats where it counts insint it? Here's mine to start with

    1. Merc85 238.7 whp 307ft ibs Volvo 855 t5 Manual
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    not one manufacturer quotes whp figures, pointless having two tables virtually the same imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by t5frankie View Post
    not one manufacturer quotes whp figures, pointless having two tables virtually the same imo
    They measure the power direct, on an engine dyno and they wouldn't give out whp anyway as the higher bhp figure looks better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamT4 View Post
    They measure the power direct, on an engine dyno and they wouldn't give out whp anyway as the higher bhp figure looks better.
    yeah and alot harder to compare it to other cars' figures if we use whp

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    Quote Originally Posted by t5frankie View Post
    yeah and alot harder to compare it to other cars' figures if we use whp
    Why is that? Its whp that moves the car.

    Won't reply for a bit mate, just watching match of the day ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamT4 View Post
    Why is that? Its whp that moves the car.

    Won't reply for a bit mate, just watching match of the day ;-)
    not everyone understands those figures, merc is just trying to get further up the leaderboard lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamT4 View Post
    Why is that? Its whp that moves the car.

    Won't reply for a bit mate, just watching match of the day ;-)
    was my understanding that it was the torque that produce the moving force. Power is a factor of torque (lb/ft) x rpm/5252

    our engines in general produce massive amounts of toque and personally this is where i find them unique and most interesting.
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    Honestly he was gutted. though to be fair we both put alot of effort into engine change and garret turbo fitting etc.

    It was just the fact he was so obsessed with if i get 300bhp ill be happy. To be fair he had bought a good lower end for conversion as his type r compression was to high. Produced 311bhp at fly and 280whp with 240lb/ft of torque which is about 325nm. Nice results.

    I can keep up until about 60/70ish then due to his only weighting about 1050kg it takes off. Think i'm going to be roped into changing gearbox soon as ratio's are far to short lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba_1986 View Post
    Honestly he was gutted. though to be fair we both put alot of effort into engine change and garret turbo fitting etc.

    It was just the fact he was so obsessed with if i get 300bhp ill be happy. To be fair he had bought a good lower end for conversion as his type r compression was to high. Produced 311bhp at fly and 280whp with 240lb/ft of torque which is about 325nm. Nice results.

    I can keep up until about 60/70ish then due to his only weighting about 1050kg it takes off. Think i'm going to be roped into changing gearbox soon as ratio's are far to short lol
    thats nice power mate what turbo and what boost

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    Turbo is a unknown. don't ask i'll get back to you lol. 10psi. It is a b18 low compression bottom end with a b18 type r 98 jdm head on it. I give it 2 months at his rate of driving and rod will snap lol.

    just checked his fb. it says

    Garrett t3/t4 57 trim .63a/f blower

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    has tial external waste gate, i know that much lol. It bolted on and that's as much as we cared lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba_1986 View Post
    Turbo is a unknown. don't ask i'll get back to you lol. 10psi. It is a b18 low compression bottom end with a b18 type r 98 jdm head on it. I give it 2 months at his rate of driving and rod will snap lol.

    just checked his fb. it says

    Garrett t3/t4 57 trim .63a/f blower

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    has tial external waste gate, i know that much lol. It bolted on and that's as much as we cared lol
    i use a t38 hybrid with t4 billet compressor wheel the largest possible lol,running on a 2.3 8v with modded big valve head etc and forged bottom end.im going to run it at 28 psi for now but the turbo rated at 36 psi.i have also built a new cossie manifold for it too you have proberly seen the thread on that though.i think this little lot should net me 140 bhp.

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    I only get 228whp but I get more than 100whp at 2000rpm and 160whp at 3000 - all smooth, with very little lag.

    suits me just fine All this crank BHP is subject to the whims of dodgy dynos anyway.

    A fast car isn't always a pleasant car esp if your FWD is overwhelmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t5_monkey View Post
    I only get 228whp but I get more than 100whp at 2000rpm and 160whp at 3000 - all smooth, with very little lag.

    suits me just fine All this crank BHP is subject to the whims of dodgy dynos anyway.

    A fast car isn't always a pleasant car esp if your FWD is overwhelmed.
    the last time i went on the rollers with a standard engine i was on full power by 3k too and thats a 940 but it flat lined at 4200 to 6k .but that problem will be sorted though .

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    Too much talking guys,lets get down to the business I can only c one figure so far.here is mine.
    207 WHP wiv 53 it/loss due to the rims was told
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    269 whp/456 mm with 16t


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamest5r View Post
    269 whp/456 mm with 16t
    gotta b a hybrid 16t,is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsford G View Post
    gotta b a hybrid 16t,is it?
    Nope, and with orange injectors all fueling ok.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamest5r View Post
    Nope, and with orange injectors all fueling ok.
    I don`t know what u done to it but that is more than my crank power.I have whites and 18t wiv rica 310 no other mods at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merc85 View Post
    Just a thought, Seeing as we have a Flywheel Power Leader Board wouldnt it be a interesting to have a Wheel Horse Power Leader board to compare with?

    After all thats where it counts insint it? Here's mine to start with

    1. Merc85 238.7 whp 307ft ibs Volvo 855 t5 Manual
    Peak figures do not tell the whole story. For a kick off you need to include the RPM where the peak figures occur. You look for the thread with the Escort with 400 odd horse power - only to find that it has a peak torque curve fo 1200 rpm, which is about as pointless as broken pencil for a forced induction car.

    However even with that to one side - The biggest issue is that these figures are gathered from different days, different conditions & different dynos.

    There are too many errors for this thread to be meaningful.

    Results from a dyno day shoot-out would be the only way to know for a proper comparison.
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