Volvo phase 2 v70 r and s60 r buyers guide and tuning advice

[t5 pete]

As many people will have noticed these are coming down in price these days and are getting more affordable.
I have been thinking about getting one but havent had any thing to do with them so dont know what there weak points are and how tuneable they are.
The items i have heared that are problematic are
angle gear collars
Auto boxes
cracking of liners

I would be very greatfull if some one more knowledge able than me on phase 2 R's would share there knowledge on them and wouldnt mind writing a buyers guide and info on tuning.

Thank you

[Tomcat]

Ditto, sounds like a plan.

[rikcougar]

Interesting idea

Would be relevant to the phase 2 C70 as well ?

[t5 pete]

i doubt it

[volvokid]

Come on people, I was hoping to see this thread grow!!!!

[M-R-P]

Ok, what I know...
Propper tuning can't be done without a remap.
Hub/driveshaft bolts come loose (XC90 bolts recommended)
PCV is as bad, if not worse for blocking BUT there's an easy fix - if the nipple on the intake is clean, there's a banjo bolt on the inlet manifold that blocks and that's it. no new catch tank etc.
DIM problems - go for a post 2004 model to be safe.
A cone filter makes it sound nice.
Heavy front end so polybush wishbones and uprated shocks are a good idea.
Not the same aggressive kind of throttle response that you get from P1s but the power is there and goes on forever.
More comfy than a p1
better fuel economy than a P1.

This is based on my knowledge of the P2 V70 T5 and P1 V70 2.5T.
Hope this is of some use.

[Al115]

I'l write it:

S60R Buyer's Guide

Don't. It'll break in new and expensive ways that only Volvo can fix.

Done.

[volvokid]

Not the same aggressive kind of throttle response that you get from P1s but the power is there and goes on forever.
This is based on my knowledge of the P2 V70 T5 and P1 V70 2.5T.

TBH the R's are a tottaly diffrent car compared to the T5's and the older R's the throttle response is far more aggresive than any other Volvo and TBH its sometimes to aggresive

[M-R-P]

I'l write it:

S60R Buyer's Guide

Don't. It'll break in new and expensive ways that only Volvo can fix.

Done.

Bwaaaaaahahahaha ha ha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha! nice one dude!
FWD is the way forward (just not the way round bends quickly) LOL

[Santa]

great cars.....but as I once read if you couldn't afford to run a high performance car when it was new you probably can't afford to run it used.

Suspension can also have its issues, fuel regulator, Haldex controller, stupid exhaust bracket, angle gear, spline, heater in the seat, wheel bearings..............probably some other things I haven't mentioned..........but who cares :-)

Tuning, like any modern car you need to ensure its correctly mapped to support the hardware you've installed, as for tuning its still a T5 engine, some have replaced the 2.5 with the 2.4.

[volvokid]

If your into racing and thrashing your car all the time, I wouldnt recomend one, I think things could get expensive quite fast. Parts break same with any other car if there pushed all the time.

[spencem875]

I'l write it:

S60R Buyer's Guide

Don't. It'll break in new and expensive ways that only Volvo can fix.

Done.

True but sometimes its sooooo much fun sex wee leaks out...

[Santa]

True but sometimes its sooooo much fun sex wee leaks out...

That hasn't happened to me tbh lol

[Santa]

If your into racing and thrashing your car all the time, I wouldnt recomend one, I think things could get expensive quite fast. Parts break same with any other car if there pushed all the time.

Its the harsh launching that does it................so no drag racing if you dont want expensive bills. (They only bog down anyway).

[spencem875]

That hasn't happened to me tbh lol

Your not doing it right then :p

[Santa]

Your not doing it right then :p

Think we need a 3rd opinion incase you're doing it wrong........but it feels so right............lol

[volvokid]

I wet my pants but for all the wrong reasons in my dads S60R, I was being an utter ****.

[LeeT5]

Interesting idea

Would be relevant to the phase 2 C70 as well ?

Why would it be?? A C70 does not have the same Suspension, Engine, Turbo, Haldex AWD system, 4CCC....Can't see how it would be relevant?

[LeeT5]

Ok, what I know...
Propper tuning can't be done without a remap.
Hub/driveshaft bolts come loose (XC90 bolts recommended)
PCV is as bad, if not worse for blocking BUT there's an easy fix - if the nipple on the intake is clean, there's a banjo bolt on the inlet manifold that blocks and that's it. no new catch tank etc.
DIM problems - go for a post 2004 model to be safe.
A cone filter makes it sound nice.
Heavy front end so polybush wishbones and uprated shocks are a good idea.
Not the same aggressive kind of throttle response that you get from P1s but the power is there and goes on forever.
More comfy than a p1
better fuel economy than a P1.

This is based on my knowledge of the P2 V70 T5 and P1 V70 2.5T.
Hope this is of some use.

Not meaning to pick a fight but i totally disagree with half of all of the above. I have owned a P1 V70R awd and now my P2 V70R. Spent hundreds on both. Owned my P1 for over 3 years and had my P2 for nearly 2.

To elaberate:

Propper tuning can't be done without a remap.correct
Hub/driveshaft bolts come loose (XC90 bolts recommended)Correct
PCV is as bad, if not worse for blocking BUT there's an easy fix - if the nipple on the intake is clean, there's a banjo bolt on the inlet manifold that blocks and that's it. no new catch tank etc.Not true - you still need to replace ALL the hoses on the PCV inc the oil trap
DIM problems - go for a post 2004 model to be safe.Not a common fault and does not affect R models. The DIM is different to standard V70/S60 models
A cone filter makes it sound nice.True
Heavy front end so polybush wishbones and uprated shocks are a good idea.polybush - yes, uprate shocks - Definate NO. Absolutely no need unless you use car on a race track on a regular basis. If you do away with the shocks then you loose the 4CCC...then what's the point in owning a P2 R?
Not the same aggressive kind of throttle response that you get from P1s but the power is there and goes on forever.Your car must have something wrong with it then? Throttle response is massively improved over the P1 even when not in Advanced. If you have response problems then check your MAF and ETM (P1 only for ETM issues)
More comfy than a p1Completely disagree. Looks wise, maybe, but defo not more comfy ride. P2 S60R/V70R ride is alot more harsh than a P1.
better fuel economy than a P1. Only when remapped. However, i never noticed any difference and both my cars had a BSR stage 2 remap. Both average about 22mpg and will easily do 37mpg on long motorway cruising at 70-75mph.

As for power...well IMH it would be unfair to compare one against the other. AWD system is completely different, more mechanical than electrical in the P1s case. As for the P2 Rs...you gain more cubic capacity, A MASSIVE KKK24 Turbo, ME7.01 over ME7, lightened internals, racing sump, TWO fuel pumps, TWO Turbo intercoolers, VVT on both intake AND exhaust. In 'Advanced sport' a whole plethera of electronics improve the handling and throttle response. It would be totally unfair to compare one from the other. They are, AFAIC, completely different in every way...and i haven't even mentioned the Yaw and squat sensors, accelerometers, rebound control and a whole host of other computer wizardry that makes the P2 R the car it is and whilst the P1 R is a great car it shouldn't be compared to nor expected to perform aswell as or better than a P2 R.

When all problems are fixed, suspension knocks and rattles cured, No MAF or Fuel pressure probs or vac leaks the P2 V70R/S60R are incredibly agile cars. I would never expect my P1 V70R to do what my P2 V70R can do! I chuck it into corners in the wet and never let up on the throttle and it just doesn't let go. My P1 would have twitched and been unnerving even thou having spent thousands doing it up and getting absolutely all major and minor problems rectified. She was a great car but never a contender for the later P2 Rs.

If anyone begs to differ then i'm all ears!

[volvokid]

Where do you find all this info lee, is it all on VOC???