S40 T4 SE Auto phase 2 engine fault/s advice....

**Al115** · Monday 18th July 2011, 19:04

Second hand block from a breaker will limit your cost to ~£350 plus fitting (which you could do yourself maybe).

**Jamest5r** · Monday 18th July 2011, 20:14

Try Salvo mate they are a massive volvo breaker's i got a t5 engine from them for £250 so maybe a t4 in a similar price range? 0115 9445644.

Also i know of a garage in Aston that would do the swop for you at a decent price it's next door to my Mrs business so could come with you if you want to enquire about cost

**Al115** · Monday 18th July 2011, 21:38

I actually bought a second-hand T4 lump from Salvo before and can only report good experiences about the deal. Had loads of other bits off them too and they're always carefully packed and working, which ticks the box for me! Plus they give a little "forum discount" sometimes if you ask nicely, at least they used to.

Know what engine code you have before you call them, if you're going to.

**Dangerous Dave** · Tuesday 19th July 2011, 01:14

Originally Posted by T4 NEIL

Went to 2 more local garages today, 1 said possibly sticking valves/ stem seals/head gasket the other said looks like piston rings/ head gasket. Both said lookin at £1000 ! But neither would want to do it anyway..

Still can't get hold of trader either, think I've been well & truely f***ed over!!!

TBH mate, if you've stripped down engines before then theres not much that you can't do. OK there may be more bits attached to the engine, but they're all basically the same. If you've got a good guide and the tools then you can do anything. Thats if you want to get stuck in, that is.

**T4 NEIL** · Tuesday 19th July 2011, 06:51

Thanks for the support guys, gonna make a few calls this morning after droppin the Mrs at work. Been checkin fleabay for a manual as Halfrauds want £20! (Unless anyone knows of one lying around or an online pdf or something I can download?

**T4 NEIL** · Tuesday 19th July 2011, 09:54

Decoded my VIN and found my engine code B4204T5 but you all probably knew that anyway. Will have to nurse it thru the next few weeks to get some overtime in!

**T4 NEIL** · Tuesday 19th July 2011, 10:18

Salvo quoted £395 for the T3 variant which I belive is 165bhp so if I've gotta spend that sort of cash & still have to strip & swap bits, would it not be cheaper to rebuild what I've already got?

What sort of price for a full gasket/seals set & worse case a full set of piston rings?

**T4 NEIL** · Tuesday 19th July 2011, 19:10

Update:

My wife managed to get hold of the trader & explained the situation, crafty mare rang him from her work phone, so it didn't do go to his answermachine! We'll see what happens next after mentioning Sale of Goods Act & small claims court....

**Jamest5r** · Tuesday 19th July 2011, 19:12

Originally Posted by T4 NEIL

Update:

My wife managed to get hold of the trader & explained the situation, crafty mare rang him from her work phone, so it didn't do go to his answermachine! We'll see what happens next after mentioning Sale of Goods Act & small claims court....

Nice one mate, i know what you mean about those Harborne girls i married one

**T4 NEIL** · Saturday 23rd July 2011, 07:44

Still waiting....

**T4 NEIL** · Tuesday 26th July 2011, 07:33

Ok, for the second time last night I had the engine management & traction control lights on together!

Any ideas apart from the e/m & t/c systems throwin a wobbly at exactly the same time?

**Al115** · Tuesday 26th July 2011, 09:39

"Read the codes, Luke"...

Really, you're guessing otherwise. There is a "Forum code reader" that you can borrow to do it for just the cost of the postage.

If you are keen on doing the labour yourself then it's probably cheaper to buy the bits and put the hours in, rather than buying a lump from Salvo. That's if you don't cost your time out, and you enjoy the work (like I often do!)

**Al115** · Tuesday 26th July 2011, 09:41

(And AFAIK all T4s were nominally 200bhp, none of them were 165.)

**T4 NEIL** · Tuesday 26th July 2011, 14:30

Originally Posted by Al115

(And AFAIK all T4s were nominally 200bhp, none of them were 165.)

I did read somewhere that the B4204T3 lump fitted as "2.0 Turbo" not "2.0 T4" has different cams/piston/turbo set up for the 165bhp. But nevertheless, if the dealer wont fix it maybe I could get half the repair cost off him & fix it myself for less than £400 ???

**Al115** · Tuesday 26th July 2011, 15:22

Why not just get the right engine from Salvo? What is in your car already? The engine code is printed on a sticker on the timing belt cover (or we can guess it, but if it's written there... safest bet!)

Alternatively if you can get some of the repair money from the dealer and go to town on the engine yourself, it will be cheaper (again, assuming you don't cost your time out).

Either route is viable I think!

**T4 NEIL** · Tuesday 26th July 2011, 21:13

Originally Posted by Al115

(And AFAIK all T4s were nominally 200bhp, none of them were 165.)

I did read somewhere that the B4204T3 lump fitted as "2.0 Turbo" not "2.0 T4" has different cams/piston/turbo set up for the 165bhp. But nevertheless, if the dealer wont fix it maybe I could get half the repair cost off him & fix it myself for less than £400 ???

**Al115** · Tuesday 26th July 2011, 22:32

Yes the B4204T3 is the light-pressure turbo engine (2.0T) so has some differences to the B4204T5 (T4) lump. Not sure what they are exactly but I wouldn't waste time buying the wrong engine and then making it right. You should be able to get a replacement engine for £400 or thereabouts and that would also give you the time to take yours apart and rebuild it in a relaxed timeframe? Or if you can afford to have the car off the road then just go with the rebuild on your current engine, as you said.

Any news from the trader in question?...

**T4 NEIL** · Thursday 28th July 2011, 08:03

The main man with the purse is back off holiday on sunday & I've been told to expect a phone call on monday, so we'll see... also, I only mentioned the B4204T3 as this was the only engine Salvo had at the time.

I would love to rebuild the engine myself, just depends whats involved, special tools etc & the fact I dont have a garage or anything so would have to carry the motor thru the house to the back garden or it would be on Steptoe's truck in minutes...

**T4 NEIL** · Saturday 30th July 2011, 10:27

Only code stored was Crank Position Sensor! Any ideas???

**GazT4R** · Saturday 30th July 2011, 17:27

The T4 will throw a crank position sensor code if the compression is too low.

I really wouldn't bother with the T3 variant as it's also a higher compression engine so no good for fettling.
Have a look on ebay for a short block, they're usually not massively expensive and I've seen a couple everytime I've looked. As Al has said you should be able to get an engine for 3-400 notes.