Remap suggestion

[deathrider311271]

you say that, but the HLM remap is 1/3 of the price of others yet involves more work (ie soldering the eprom). All stage 1 generic maps have been written years ago & just a case of copying to the ecu

thats your opinion, i personally dont want my ECU taking out being messed around with when there is a much better way to do it on the later cars, the way HLM do it is old skool. Now a days there is no need to change the chip when it is writable already, wouldnt touch one with my worst enemies car and yes this is from personal experience

[si850r]

I had my remap from hlm about 3 weeks ago now and I am entirely satisfied by it...

Forget all the myths flying around on here tdd5 etc...
The remap maybe be cheaper than others, for that reason I could not tell you and to be quite honest I dont care. All I know is that I took my car to hlm got treated very nicely by Nat in a professional manner and, touch wood nothing has gone wrong with my car. It is boosting hard , holding a constant boost and is better on fuel consumption now, so in my eyes its a win win situation...


To put it in a nut shell......dont believe the hype...

[T5frankie]

I had my remap from hlm about 3 weeks ago now and I am entirely satisfied by it...

Forget all the myths flying around on here tdd5 etc...
The remap maybe be cheaper than others, for that reason I could not tell you and to be quite honest I dont care. All I know is that I took my car to hlm got treated very nicely by Nat in a professional manner and, touch wood nothing has gone wrong with my car. It is boosting hard , holding a constant boost and is better on fuel consumption now, so in my eyes its a win win situation...


To put it in a nut shell......dont believe the hype...

its cheaper because he just solders in a new chip from maps that are already on file from previous cars that were re-mapped

[yorkiet52]

Did the dip stick test and it's smoking, guess i need to do that first. Had a look on mvs seems a bit of a daunting job. Should it run better when this is done ?

[p fandango]

thats your opinion, i personally dont want my ECU taking out being messed around with when there is a much better way to do it on the later cars, the way HLM do it is old skool. Now a days there is no need to change the chip when it is writable already, wouldnt touch one with my worst enemies car and yes this is from personal experience

can't see whether it being old skool, new skool or anything in between makes a difference, the results are exactly the same. And i hate to disappoint you but you'll find Volvo soldered your chips into the ECU lol

[Santa]

can't see whether it being old skool, new skool or anything in between makes a difference, the results are exactly the same. And i hate to disappoint you but you'll find Volvo soldered your chips into the ECU lol

Well it was probably who ever they subcontracted the manufacture of the part before

[JelT5]

Did the dip stick test and it's smoking, guess i need to do that first. Had a look on mvs seems a bit of a daunting job. Should it run better when this is done ?

It's not that bad a job mate, just take your time! Make sure you've got a 10mm ratchet spanner and plenty of UJs for your 10mm socket when it comes to taking the inlet manifold off!
It's certainly not going to hurt the car's running capabilities and will save you having to change the rear main oil seal.

[The Flying Moose]

thats your opinion, i personally dont want my ECU taking out being messed around with when there is a much better way to do it on the later cars, the way HLM do it is old skool. Now a days there is no need to change the chip when it is writable already, wouldnt touch one with my worst enemies car and yes this is from personal experience

The way I look at any Remap or chip is like this. If you are happy with the way the cars runs, it runs well, it feels good, it fuels correctly and the AFR's are within a safe range (ie focused more at being slightly rich than running the chance of being lean) then what is the problem?

[crezzy2k1]

Did the dip stick test and it's smoking, guess i need to do that first. Had a look on mvs seems a bit of a daunting job. Should it run better when this is done ?

its easy mate just me i was daunted at first but it turns out not to be so bad!

[Nathlm]

its cheaper because he just solders in a new chip from maps that are already on file from previous cars that were re-mapped

Yes and so do most other tuners but charge a hell of lot more than we do. Also if we were ODB 2 tuning 850 the prices would have to go up to cover the cost of extra equipment - hence the reason our software upgrade for the newer volvos are £350 - £450 because the diagnostic and tuning equipment costs £1000s, then there is annual subscriptions etc etc.

The cost of investments we have to make into technology to stay in the game would make your eyes water!

Nat

[yorkiet52]

That's a good point, i agree most new school tuning is more expensive, and if the result is the same who cares !

[T5frankie]

New school or old surely when the results are the same it comes down to price I would rather pay 150 quid than 3 times as much, it ain't rocket science

[Wobbly Dave]

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthre...069#post391069

have a read of this thread - it may be of interest to you before you decide where to go!

Yes but Monkey man - HLM Stage 1 remap - which is what the guy wants is great VFM.

Casting wild aspertions based on conjected opinions is to my mind a little presumptuous. IMHO so long as you use the same dyno everytime then I don't see the problem.

[saffronman]

I have to say that I'm a complete novice with Volvo's and I also have been thinking about getting a remap and I read all the Volvo forums in my search for knowledge of these great cars but after reading all the comments I think I'm more confused than ever as what I should go for. Regarding the hlm one, if that is ripped off, what is it ripped from? A Rica or a custom tune, something off ebay?.
The mte one seems to be very usable power all across the rev range and doesn't tail off at the top end
But is twice the cost and if I'm not getting anything different why pay the extra.
I dunno decisions decisions

[p fandango]

I have to say that I'm a complete novice with Volvo's and I also have been thinking about getting a remap and I read all the Volvo forums in my search for knowledge of these great cars but after reading all the comments I think I'm more confused than ever as what I should go for. Regarding the hlm one, if that is ripped off, what is it ripped from? A Rica or a custom tune, something off ebay?.
The mte one seems to be very usable power all across the rev range and doesn't tail off at the top end
But is twice the cost and if I'm not getting anything different why pay the extra.
I dunno decisions decisions

your best bet is get to a meet & have ago in some cars with the different maps on. Personally i love the aggressiveness of an MBC which no remap can touch lol

[saffronman]

i agree p.
i have been out in flatout phil's beautiful red 850r, i think that has a rica map and i really loved that and how aggressive it was but phil's is a manual and mine an auto.
so im hoping to go along to a meet and get a go in a remapped auto.

[AndysR]

i agree p.
i have been out in flatout phil's beautiful red 850r, i think that has a rica map and i really loved that and how aggressive it was but phil's is a manual and mine an auto.
so im hoping to go along to a meet and get a go in a remapped auto.

Mine's an auto, if you can come along to one of the Essex meets I'll take you for a run up the road in mine, either that or you can go up the road with my brother in his S70R which is auto with a Rica

[Wobbly Dave]

I have to say that I'm a complete novice with Volvo's and I also have been thinking about getting a remap and I read all the Volvo forums in my search for knowledge of these great cars but after reading all the comments I think I'm more confused than ever as what I should go for. Regarding the hlm one, if that is ripped off, what is it ripped from? A Rica or a custom tune, something off ebay?.
The mte one seems to be very usable power all across the rev range and doesn't tail off at the top end
But is twice the cost and if I'm not getting anything different why pay the extra.
I dunno decisions decisions

HLM stage 1 remaps are not ripped off from anyone, despite what you may have read. Having discussed this with Hamish on many occasions the rights to supply them are not up for debate to be honest. I am not going into a long diatribe about it, Hamish is well within his own rights to sell what he sells, just that certain unsubstantiated conclusions have been asserted, on a number of forums, including this one. HLM remaps at 150 quid for what is supplied is a bargain & a good product. If you want more details then I suggest to speak to him yourself.

[viggen]

I have used HLM on three ocassions, all Maps have been great, the advice is good and recently i recomended him to two friends Sam T55VOL map and suspension lowered, and today a very nice Focus ST as we speak is being sorted.
We havent always seen eye to eye but his work has allways been first class

Keep up the good Work

Rob G

[saffronman]

dave,
as im pretty new to volvo, im trying learn as much as i can regarding my v70 and to be fair ive read a lot of negative stuff regard hlm across the forums, aswell as other volvo tuning companies to be fair and not too many praising any of them so it kind of puts you off.
im just trying to get a better understanding from people who have been there and done it as i dont want to weight out for something and it bugger my car up.
so if the hlm remap is behaves the same as the rica one then that is probably the one for me as i prefer my cars to have good acceleration, coz thats where the fun is to me.
seems to be a lot of conflictions with certain folks regarding this subject and it has been a little confusing for someone finding their feet having to read through all the BS name calling.
unsubstantiated seems to be right as no one has mentioned from where.
i think i'll give them a call as you suggest.