TFM's 850 R Replica Project

**T5frankie** · Sunday 3rd July 2011, 00:26

Originally Posted by The Flying Moose

Cheers Andy,

It will be intersting to see your colour against mine as after meeting Niles with his 850R it would seem mine although a dark grey is a lighter shade of grey than his and Im sure yours probably is too. Either way grey is the way forward

grey is the way forward????? pmsl

**The Flying Moose** · Sunday 3rd July 2011, 00:29

Originally Posted by t5frankie

grey is the way forward????? pmsl

Everyone goes grey at some Frankie just a case of how and when.

**The Flying Moose** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 18:16

Well thanks with the help of smithness last night we got cracking and fitted my 19T. It was a bit experimental really as I needed to confirm that the valve stem seals were gone on the car and not the turbo oil seals. So to avoid needing to change the straight flange downpipe to an angled one we used the 15G/16T flange bolted to the 19T. The only difference being the 19T is 3" Angled and the 15G/16T is 2.5" and straight.

Needless to say even with the whites fitted the car is pulling like a train! I have turned the boost right down until the greens are fitted to prevent the car leaning out.

I spent today giving the car a thorough service, its had a fresh 6L of Millers 10w40 XFS, fuel filter, oil filter and a set of NGK Platinums. Once this was finished I set out removing the inlet manifold from my old "donor" engine and began porting it to accept a ported and polished throttle body. There is quite a difference in size so it should spool much better.

Next job is cleaning the inlet out, polishing it up and fitting it all on. I also have a complete PCV breather system to fit too.

Here are a few pics.

**The Flying Moose** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 18:18

I can confirm now that the valve stem seals are completely shot! The 19T pushing through more air has made it almost unbearable. Its definately not the turbo as its been fully rebuilt.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyOaXgHBatw[/ame]

**leet5r** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 18:22

you sure thats the oil seals , the smoke looks white which will be water m8
edit cars coming along nicely now m8 , well done

**Jamest5r** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 18:28

Originally Posted by leet5r

you sure thats the oil seals , the smoke looks white which will be water m8
edit cars coming along nicely now m8 , well done

Your going colour blind mate

**The Flying Moose** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 18:37

Originally Posted by jamest5r

Your going colour blind mate

Whats even more embarrasing is that I am colourblind and even I can tell thats blue smoke!!!

**AndysR** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 19:28

Nice work so far Emlyn. Shame about the smoking, like you say It does seem very characteristically like valve stem oil seals as it clears when you hold the revs but starts on the initial rev and on deceleration. My Orion's original CVH used to do that until the stems seals were done, quite common on the CVH, after they were replaced it didn't smoke or use a drop of oil between changes. Is it a lot of work to change the stem seals on these? The CVH has a special tool which means you can replace the seals without removing the head is that possible on these Volvo engines or is it a head off job?

**T5frankie** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 19:34

looks the same as mine mate

**AndysR** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 19:36

Originally Posted by t5frankie

looks the same as mine mate

I always though you had a gold V70

**T5frankie** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 19:40

Originally Posted by AndysR

I always though you had a gold V70

the smoking issue lol

**AndysR** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 19:43

Originally Posted by t5frankie

the smoking issue lol

Yeah yeah, It's okay I used stand what you meant is you really want a grey 850... But it came out all wrong....

**Jim S70R** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 19:45

Looks like you've been busy, great job on getting the 19t fitted

Do you polish the hole inlet manifold or just were it meets the larger throttle body? What exhaust manifold are you running to?

**T5frankie** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 19:46

Originally Posted by AndysR

Yeah yeah, It's okay I used stand what you meant is you really want a grey 850... But it came out all wrong....

grey? thats the colour of olden days, of misery and black and white films, thats the colour of boredom and the colour you choose so no-one notices you, HAIL the saffron v70R, long live the king of volvos

**siamblue** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 20:07

Originally Posted by t5frankie

grey? thats the colour of olden days, of misery and black and white films, thats the colour of boredom and the colour you choose so no-one notices you, HAIL the saffron v70R, long live the king of volvos

Grey is for when you are old and confused, lol..

**The Flying Moose** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 20:08

Originally Posted by AndysR

Nice work so far Emlyn. Shame about the smoking, like you say It does seem very characteristically like valve stem oil seals as it clears when you hold the revs but starts on the initial rev and on deceleration. My Orion's original CVH used to do that until the stems seals were done, quite common on the CVH, after they were replaced it didn't smoke or use a drop of oil between changes. Is it a lot of work to change the stem seals on these? The CVH has a special tool which means you can replace the seals without removing the head is that possible on these Volvo engines or is it a head off job?

Unfortunately its a head off job Andy, means new head bolts, gasket kit and seals. It will also require the valve's grinding and the head skimming. Whilst your at it mean as well do the cambelt and water pump too. All in should cost about £150.

Originally Posted by Jim S70R

Looks like you've been busy, great job on getting the 19t fitted

Do you polish the hole inlet manifold or just were it meets the larger throttle body? What exhaust manifold are you running to?

I have just ported and polished the throttle body inlet. At the moment I am running the standard T5 exhaust manifold, the ME7 or R should be better but the other option is to grind out the vanes in the T5 to improve it without it costing more than a couple of dremel bits.

Originally Posted by t5frankie

grey? thats the colour of olden days, of misery and black and white films, thats the colour of boredom and the colour you choose so no-one notices you, HAIL the saffron v70R, long live the king of volvos

Frankie, Frankie, Frankie... I would say its Jealousy but i'd probably be wrong. Anyhow isnt the whole point of the estate's the "sleeper" effect? I mean a saloon going fast is understandable to a degree but everyone is always amazed when a dull normal looking estate flies! The problem with saffron is that you think it must be something special to be that colour thus it looses the "wow" effect.

**AndysR** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 20:11

Originally Posted by t5frankie

grey? thats the colour of olden days, of misery and black and white films, thats the colour of boredom and the colour you choose so no-one notices you, HAIL the saffron v70R, long live the king of volvos

Yeah your right all hail the Jaffa...... Oh....

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTN6Du3MCgI&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]

**T5frankie** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 20:13

Originally Posted by The Flying Moose

Unfortunately its a head off job Andy, means new head bolts, gasket kit and seals. It will also require the valve's grinding and the head skimming. Whilst your at it mean as well do the cambelt and water pump too. All in should cost about £150.

I have just ported and polished the throttle body inlet. At the moment I am running the standard T5 exhaust manifold, the ME7 or R should be better but the other option is to grind out the vanes in the T5 to improve it without it costing more than a couple of dremel bits.

Frankie, Frankie, Frankie... I would say its Jealousy but i'd probably be wrong. Anyhow isnt the whole point of the estate's the "sleeper" effect? I mean a saloon going fast is understandable to a degree but everyone is always amazed when a dull normal looking estate flies! The problem with saffron is that you think it must be something special to be that colour thus it looses the "wow" effect.

my car is a massive headturner visually and the sound which is how i like it as i like to show off, it's got to catch the eye to notice it in the first place, and i know you'd love a saffy

**The Flying Moose** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 20:14

Originally Posted by t5frankie

my car is a massive headturner visually and the sound which is how i like it as i like to show off, it's got to catch the eye to notice it in the first place, and i know you'd love a saffy

You know what I have always had a soft spot for the laser blue ones... similar in your face colour to the saffron I think too.

**T5frankie** · Tuesday 5th July 2011, 20:15

Originally Posted by The Flying Moose

You know what I have always had a soft spot for the laser blue ones... similar in your face colour to the saffron I think too.

yeah but autos only

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