What would be involved in fitting an S60R engine to a C70 coupe?

[After_Shock]

Just a daft idea really but how much work would be involved in fitting an R engine to an old shape C70 Coupe, would it work with the ME7 ECU, can it connect to the T5 gearbox, are the engine mounts totally different etc etc and has anything like that been done??

[The Flying Moose]

Im sure its probably been done before. The pricipal is straight forward. The block and anciallaries could be modified to fit by using S60R subframe etc or modifiying the existing one. It would be a hell of a lot of work though and the electrics would require an experienced mechanic at best.

Ultimately though.... why? The S60R engine is weaker the the T5 fitted to the C70.

[After_Shock]

Ultimately though.... why? The S60R engine is weaker the the T5 fitted to the C70.

Is it thought it was forged internals on the R engine?

[The Flying Moose]

Is it thought it was forged internals on the R engine?

Affraid I dont know enough about the actual internals of the engine to comment but the block itself is weaker and I have read stories about them cracking between the cylinders due to the size of the bore. Its basically the same 2.3 engine but bored out to 2.5 and reducing the amount of metal and strength between each cylinder.

[Jamest5r]

Is it thought it was forged internals on the R engine?

You are correct mate, an easier way would be to buy the s60r rods and have them fitted to you engine, thats what smithy done with his v70 and the was running a t35 so they can take a bit of abuse.

[smithy]

Affraid I dont know enough about the actual internals of the engine to comment but the block itself is weaker and I have read stories about them cracking between the cylinders due to the size of the bore. Its basically the same 2.3 engine but bored out to 2.5 and reducing the amount of metal and strength between each cylinder.

sorry to say this mate but the 2.5 is different to the 2.3 block.the 2.3 block is a 2.0 block with a longer throw crank and different pistons.the 2435 block is what you are talking about is the same block as the 2.5 but with a longer throw crank to make it 2.5.the s60 r engine has got forged rods and pistons fitted as standard mate.and the reason why they crack is because of too much heat inside the pistons bores. but if you use a big enough turbo to keep the intake charges cooler and a custom intercooler no probs

[The Flying Moose]

sorry to say this mate but the 2.5 is different to the 2.3 block.the 2.3 block is a 2.0 block with a longer throw crank and different pistons.the 2435 block is what you are talking about is the same block as the 2.5 but with a longer throw crank to make it 2.5.the s60 r engine has got forged rods and pistons fitted as standard mate.and the reason why they crack is because of too much heat inside the pistons bores. but if you use a big enough turbo to keep the intake charges cooler and a custom intercooler no probs

Knew someone would put me right! I was roughly on the right lines though

Slowly getting there smithy.... slowly.

[smithy]

Knew someone would put me right! I was roughly on the right lines though

Slowly getting there smithy.... slowly.

lol dont worry mate i learnt when i built my last v70

[martybelfastt5]

technical knowledge overload!!! i got dizzy there lol,,,id just buy a t5 lol

[Turkish]

Without a doubt, if you are going to go down this route, then look for a 2.4 T5 unit from the S60/V70 2005 onwards models. A few people have changed their S60R engines for this unit, all the best bits from the R engine with MUCH better reliability, will produce the same power too.

Lots of these engines around as fitted to the Police spec T5's from that era.

[Wobbly Dave]

I agree with the Turk. That 2.4 litre block from the MY2005 T5 is probably the best of both worlds. Wegal certainly showed its strength at the rolling road day - with over 300 at the wheels.

[RT MECHANICS]

Without a doubt, if you are going to go down this route, then look for a 2.4 T5 unit from the S60/V70 2005 onwards models. A few people have changed their S60R engines for this unit, all the best bits from the R engine with MUCH better reliability, will produce the same power too.

Lots of these engines around as fitted to the Police spec T5's from that era.

What make of software did these said cars have........

[Santa]

A few people have changed their S60R engines for this unit, all the best bits from the R engine with MUCH better reliability, will produce the same power too.

I've been tempted to do this with my S60R.....but the engine has proven to be the most reliable part of the car so far. (Touch wood).

[Turkish]

What make of software did these said cars have........

I would not like to comment...

Back to the OP's thread...

[After_Shock]

Some interesting reading in that lot.

Best advice is just stick with the standard T5 engine basically.

Whos who in T5 tuning these days been a few years since I was in the fold?

[Wobbly Dave]

Some interesting reading in that lot.

Best advice is just stick with the standard T5 engine basically.

Whos who in T5 tuning these days been a few years since I was in the fold?

Duck & Cover!!! Expecting an E-raid from T5D5

In no particular order

Chad - now deals RICA as one of many resellers & has a garage I believe in the West Mids
Turbo-Tuner - aka Adam Webber formally of HLM Chiptuning (which is now just HLM) is doing P&P USB style DIY mapping amongst other things, though this is just purely on ECU side of things
RT Mechanics are further south - doing all kinds of things - also RICA reseller IIRC.
HLM - is still run by Hamish and have a number of good offerings including ATM (Swedish based tuner)
SW Autos (in Kent) - geordies/macams will not be understood - I have not heard so much about Stuart doing a great deal with Volvo's recently - but given your location - I guess that is not so important?

Not really heard of anyone doing a great deal in the NE I'm afraid.

Anyway nice to have you back. You gonna get another C70 I guess? Mines running 305 Bhp with a bit more to come I hope. Good to have you here.

[Wobbly Dave]

ps - Out of the 4 custom remaps I have had - I found that the ATM map is the best. I managed the most efficient force out of the 19T - getting over 300bhp for only 1 Bar boost.

[RT MECHANICS]

Duck & Cover!!! Expecting an E-raid from T5D5

In no particular order

Chad - now deals RICA as one of many resellers & has a garage I believe in the West Mids
Turbo-Tuner - aka Adam Webber formally of HLM Chiptuning (which is now just HLM) is doing P&P USB style DIY mapping amongst other things, though this is just purely on ECU side of things
RT Mechanics are further south - doing all kinds of things - also RICA reseller IIRC.
HLM - is still run by Hamish and have a number of good offerings including ATM (Swedish based tuner)
SW Autos (in Kent) - geordies/macams will not be understood - I have not heard so much about Stuart doing a great deal with Volvo's recently - but given your location - I guess that is not so important?

Not really heard of anyone doing a great deal in the NE I'm afraid.

Anyway nice to have you back. You gonna get another C70 I guess? Mines running 305 Bhp with a bit more to come I hope. Good to have you here.

Thats a good overview especially the troll raid i mean e-raid from other forums...

You forgot Peter at Charwood Volvo near gatwick

[After_Shock]

ps - Out of the 4 custom remaps I have had - I found that the ATM map is the best. I managed the most efficient force out of the 19T - getting over 300bhp for only 1 Bar boost.

Cheers for the detailed replies as always wobbly.

Im looking to get a second car to play around with a C70 T5 is on the list, I know them well only downside they are a bit older than what id ideally want but will see what happens if the right car crops up. Want something else as I wont use the Monaro in the wet/bad weather so its limiting my use of it alot, plus something else would stop me pouring yet more cash into that car as its getting a bit daft now.

I would be looking for a custom map not a generic one, wheres the best place to look?

[leet5r]

Duck & Cover!!! Expecting an E-raid from T5D5

In no particular order

Chad - now deals RICA as one of many resellers & has a garage I believe in the West Mids
Turbo-Tuner - aka Adam Webber formally of HLM Chiptuning (which is now just HLM) is doing P&P USB style DIY mapping amongst other things, though this is just purely on ECU side of things
RT Mechanics are further south - doing all kinds of things - also RICA reseller IIRC.
HLM - is still run by Hamish and have a number of good offerings including ATM (Swedish based tuner)
SW Autos (in Kent) - geordies/macams will not be understood - I have not heard so much about Stuart doing a great deal with Volvo's recently - but given your location - I guess that is not so important?

Not really heard of anyone doing a great deal in the NE I'm afraid.

Anyway nice to have you back. You gonna get another C70 I guess? Mines running 305 Bhp with a bit more to come I hope. Good to have you here.

nowt wrong with mackems like