V 70 S2 Models

[TangoDeltaSierra3]

As you may have read i test drove a 2000 W T5 today, it had to be jump started etc but there was a red triangle light lit on the dash during the drive, what is it for ?, also the menu said 1 message which read immobiliser ? could that be due to the flat battery ? Everything else worked ok i think, can you disable the STC as i pressed it twice and the button remained lit and no STC signal came up on the dash like TRACS does on my S70. The air con was OK, 7 seat conversion was OK, is there anything else i should look at or know about cabin wise that i might not think of ? Cheers.

[highgun]

On a P2 the red triangle means it has detected a major fault, an orange triangle means it has detected a miner fault, the fault codes will be listed in the messages screen, in this case an immobiliser fault.

It may just need to be reset via vadis as it had a flat battery.

As for tracs, you need to press the tracs button and hold it in for around a second. (More hesitation LOL)

Tony.

[TangoDeltaSierra3]

On a P2 the red triangle means it has detected a major fault, an orange triangle means it has detected a miner fault, the fault codes will be listed in the messages screen, in this case an immobiliser fault.

It may just need to be reset via vadis as it had a flat battery.

As for tracs, you need to press the tracs button and hold it in for around a second. (More hesitation LOL)

Tony.

Thanks, i wouldnt have said immobiliser was a major fault though. If car wouldn't start i guess yes.

[V8guitar]

As high gun said, triangle in the middle will highlight the fault and the code often displayed in the green led bit. Just to add, the STC is switched off by holding and an orange triangle on the right of the dash will stay on ( different to the triangle in the middle). Think it also warns on the green LED's that STC is off....

I would get them to diagnose the fault and get it sorted before you agree to anything...I have found that they are just so damn expensive for little problems....

[TangoDeltaSierra3]

As high gun said, triangle in the middle will highlight the fault and the code often displayed in the green led bit. Just to add, the STC is switched off by holding and an orange triangle on the right of the dash will stay on ( different to the triangle in the middle). Think it also warns on the green LED's that STC is off....

I would get them to diagnose the fault and get it sorted before you agree to anything...I have found that they are just so damn expensive for little problems....

The car is up for £6500, i offered him £5500 and i take it as it is, he said £5800 is his lowest, it's gonna need 4 new tyres very soon too so thats £300 straight away too, i'm still awaiting the old owner getting in touch to see if he had it diagnosed.

[TangoDeltaSierra3]

I spoke to the previous 1 owner today who said that the car was fully serviced and wanted for nothing in his 5 yr ownership, indeed he spent £2500 on mechanicals ? only 18 month ago. He upgraded to a XC 90 and got £4000 in p/x at a dealer. He did say the car was hunting revs too before he traded it in March '05. So sounds a decent enuff car if it wasn't for the reported problems.

[monsterdark]

Robbing barstewards nearly 2K mark up, should be shot for that

[TangoDeltaSierra3]

Robbing barstewards nearly 2K mark up, should be shot for that

How its got from Surrey to Bradford i dunno, he reckoned Blackbushe Auctions, as well as it looked i think i'm passing on it, gonna go the S60 route.

[blackrat2]

Hi guys

For what its worth we have a geartronic at work, the car is treated like it has the plague... nobody wants to drive it apart from the first couple of night shifts when your too tired to drive a manual!!!!
Having done my driving course using one for a couple of days i thought they were fab but having driven it on division i cannot stand the things, they are slower having done TPAC course in ours whenever i was lucky enough to get in one of the manuals we were forever waiting for the geartronic to catch up.

Here comes the pants link though, i have an ex plod V70 p2 with a manual which is showing 136 on the box, that said the engine was replaced by Volvo about 50 thou ago, she is a W plate and i have seen there is a v70 p1 for sale on this site, hows about you buy mine for about five thou i can then get the phase 1 ...... he's happy , your happy and so am i

[TangoDeltaSierra3]

Hi guys

For what its worth we have a geartronic at work, the car is treated like it has the plague... nobody wants to drive it apart from the first couple of night shifts when your too tired to drive a manual!!!!
Having done my driving course using one for a couple of days i thought they were fab but having driven it on division i cannot stand the things, they are slower having done TPAC course in ours whenever i was lucky enough to get in one of the manuals we were forever waiting for the geartronic to catch up.

Here comes the pants link though, i have an ex plod V70 p2 with a manual which is showing 136 on the box, that said the engine was replaced by Volvo about 50 thou ago, she is a W plate and i have seen there is a v70 p1 for sale on this site, hows about you buy mine for about five thou i can then get the phase 1 ...... he's happy , your happy and so am i

No good to me mate, i want an SE version with toys, sorry.

[After_Shock]

monsterdark garages dont work on a 2k mark up! Would be ideal if they did, im not sure if this is from a main dealer, if it is anything like ours they have to go through a 111point check as a legal requirement, if theirs any major faults they have to fix them, if it needs a service that has to be done, if any of the tyres are less than 3mm they have to be replaced as they technically cant or shouldnt sell the car if they are less, they have to pay for the site the car is on (millions normally) and they have to pay the staff, so out of that 2k mark up their aint much left really.

The other day I sold a car which I sold for £7500 and we paid £5600 for it, however after everything had been fixed and sorted we made £280 profit on it and that was before my wages and the hardly worthwhile £28 commission I got for the sale, main dealers dont rip people off the way most people seem to think.

[TangoDeltaSierra3]

monsterdark garages dont work on a 2k mark up! Would be ideal if they did, im not sure if this is from a main dealer, if it is anything like ours they have to go through a 111point check as a legal requirement, if theirs any major faults they have to fix them, if it needs a service that has to be done, if any of the tyres are less than 3mm they have to be replaced as they technically cant or shouldnt sell the car if they are less, they have to pay for the site the car is on (millions normally) and they have to pay the staff, so out of that 2k mark up their aint much left really.

The other day I sold a car which I sold for £7500 and we paid £5600 for it, however after everything had been fixed and sorted we made £280 profit on it and that was before my wages and the hardly worthwhile £28 commission I got for the sale, main dealers dont rip people off the way most people seem to think.

Well i think the Volvo dealer sent it to auction to avoid doing the above etc, the guy also told me the Winter gearbox button was faulty, so how much would it have cost a dealer to sort?

[After_Shock]

By the sounds of the faults it will have gone to auction, especially if the box was faulty wouldnt be worth repairing and trying to sell unless the price was put up massively.

We have an S60 T5 in thats up at £8995 I think they paid about £6500 for it, we almost sold it the other day to a customer however it only had the 111point check yesterday and the report came back saying it needed just under £3k spending on it to put it into a sellable state! So would have lost money on it and that doesnt include the warranty which we have to supply with used cars which would have cost about £500 aswell.

[TangoDeltaSierra3]

By the sounds of the faults it will have gone to auction, especially if the box was faulty wouldnt be worth repairing and trying to sell unless the price was put up massively.

We have an S60 T5 in thats up at £8995 I think they paid about £6500 for it, we almost sold it the other day to a customer however it only had the 111point check yesterday and the report came back saying it needed just under £3k spending on it to put it into a sellable state! So would have lost money on it and that doesnt include the warranty which we have to supply with used cars which would have cost about £500 aswell.

Yeah but dont they include there own costly labour charges in the £3000 quote too, i bet that would eat up half the costs.

[After_Shock]

Thats very true, its one of the major costs of anything and I find it weird how it works its also annoying as hell when trying to sell a car that needs something doing as if it needs a part I have to go and argue with them for ages to get a crap 5 or if im very lucky 10% discount, I then have to go and argue with the service department to get it done but theirs a zero chance of any discount on the labour costs so its difficult as a sales person to get anything done.

As im new to the game its just weird that in a dealership the parts department and service department are ran as totally separate businesses as to the sales part of the garage, easier to see which is doing badly profit wise I suppose but a much bigger hassle and also involves employing three managers aswell.

[V8guitar]

Having just spent £1k on my car last week ( argghhhh ), most at a dealer, I don't think they were ripping me off but they are expensive. What's the difference ? Well the service, guarantee,fixed price etc.

I don't like paying their prices, but the work is always top notch!

I also agree aftershock, why do they run service and parts like that ? Once service told me that a price had gone up because parts had quote the wrong price at the start and I would have to take it up with them as service could not honour the price as they would lose out! I told them I was dealing with them as a dealer and not as separate entities, told them to sort it....but what a daft situation!

[After_Shock]

V8 yeah it is a stupid system and causes more arguments than enough as the parts department are absolutely useless!

[lance]

You cant beat an independent specialist and pre me7 cars in term of cost and reliability!
I would love a P2 but am too scared of big bills if things go really wrong!

[BrightonBreezy]

I find my P2 quite easy to work on - once you get your head around the electrickery.
Just plug into your laptop and 'talk' to it. It will tell you itself exactly what's wrong. Combined with a copy of Vadis, it's simple.
The maintenance concept is based on the idea that you just replace the component that's broken. The car tells you what's wrong, Vadis gives you the part number and how to replace it, you go off and buy the part and fit it.

The down side is that the only source of parts is Volvo themselves as the cars are generally too new for there to be a 3rd-party supplier. My main dealer has always had what I wanted in stock or could get it for next day but they sure ain't cheap.
Also that the independents often don't have much experience or the equipment to deal with the P2 cars. Most of them are still under warranty, after all.