Help and correct advise!!! wishbone bushes.

[wright_t5]

Hi All,

Right I now have the car disabled on the drive, Easter Saturday and I find for the second time I have the wrong bushes for the front wishbone bush... well I think it's wrong because the centre bar is a parallel shaft and the bush looks like it needs a "stepped" centre bar!!! arghhhh...

Someone tell where I can get some poly bushes that fit my 03 V70 T5

I have purple bushes ( from powerflex ) part number PFF88-601

Looked on partsforvolvo and no luck finding anything different!!

Any clues out there?? what do the right bushes look like?? any pictures anywhere

[Redbrick]

This might help:

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...rflex+wishbone

The bar is indeed straight.

Before you have a nightmare BH weekend be very very careful not to dislocate the inner CV joint on the drivers side drive shaft. I wasn't the first and I won't be the last...

[wright_t5]

so if the bar is straight, thats good, mine is, everything is clean... the bush is stepped inside the hole!! looks like the shaft should have a smaller centre section...

I am tempted to cut the inner piece out so the shaft slides in... or maybe try putting the bar in as it is now, with a press I reckon it will fit!!!! can't be worse than it is now...

I think I will take some photos, cos those ones you pointed me too are the not the best I have seen....

Thanks anyways... I am amazed no one has answered my plee!!!

[Redbrick]

They were taken on my old mobile, so best I could do at the time. Beggars can't be choosers IMHO.

From memory the shaft of the bar does have a smaller circumference, you have to burn the old bush off and then press it into the Powerflex bush before pressing it back into the wishbone.

Don't go chopping the Powerflex until you are 110% certain you need to. Personally can't see why you would need to do this.

Are you sure you've got all the old bush out of the hole- it should look like this before you press the bush in:

[thebadger]

PM J!

V70torsland, he specializes in the powerflexed bones!

Look him up in the search as he has pics onhis album of the bones with the powerflex bits fitted!

HTH

[thebadger]

Linky...

[wright_t5]

They were taken on my old mobile, so best I could do at the time. Beggars can't be choosers IMHO.

From memory the shaft of the bar does have a smaller circumference, you have to burn the old bush off and then press it into the Powerflex bush before pressing it back into the wishbone.

Don't go chopping the Powerflex until you are 110% certain you need to. Personally can't see why you would need to do this.

Are you sure you've got all the old bush out of the hole- it should look like this before you press the bush in:

Not that I am complaining, can't as I haven't taken any at all!!!

As for cutting the bushes... well they look like they fit a shaft which has a reduced diameter for part of the length, to stop the bushe moving in the arm I reckon... my shafts from stock arms are parallel... I just need to know what others look like... I could turn the shaft down a bit to create the reduced diameter... or just fit the bushes as is..,,.,

Will try again tomorrow....

and yes, I agree, the tip with the clip is a good one!!! :-)

[v70torslanda]

If it's any use I have a pair of refurbed wishbones ready to go. They just need their black coating

The bushes you have are 100% correct.

The steel pins from the original front bushes need all the rubber removing from them. I just chuck mine in the chimenea with some garden rubbish, quench them and buff them with a wire wheel.

Fitting them is a trade secret but a clue is you need a couple of mahoosive* sockets and a really big vice.

How desperate are you to get your car back on the road? Do you have alternative transport? If you can't get it sorted give me a call . . . I've PM'd you my mobile

'Who you gonna call? BushBusters!' <BAD PUN>

[wright_t5]

If it's any use I have a pair of refurbed wishbones ready to go. They just need their black coating

The bushes you have are 100% correct.

The steel pins from the original front bushes need all the rubber removing from them. I just chuck mine in the chimenea with some garden rubbish, quench them and buff them with a wire wheel.

Turns out I have non-standard bushes fitted, which means the pin is not right for the bushes!!! needed a step turning into it... like the standard ones...

Thanks for the chat and guidance v70torslanda, finally got me lathe working, broke the parting off tool!!! but managed with a turning tool, sweet as... all done and fitted, car now operational, drivers side left to do.... I will do that during the week, should be quicker now I know what to do and what to remove to make job easier!!!

[v70torslanda]

Sorry if this sounds like 'Ner ner ne nerr ner' . . .

Having the wishbone to hand with the bushes already fitted and ready to go is a Good Thing!

luv'n'stuff

J

[wright_t5]

all done, photos attached... http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/album.php?albumid=244

[v70torslanda]

Ahah! I get what you mean about the pin being asymmetric.

When you dismantle the standard bush the pin looks like the rear of yours at both ends. That's why it fits both ways round and when correctly installed the pin is recessed into the front of the bush. I'll post a picture next time I refurb some.

Glad you got it sorted

luv'n'stuff

J

[Redbrick]

Glad you got it sorted.

[wright_t5]

Ahah! I get what you mean about the pin being asymmetric.

When you dismantle the standard bush the pin looks like the rear of yours at both ends. That's why it fits both ways round and when correctly installed the pin is recessed into the front of the bush. I'll post a picture next time I refurb some.

Glad you got it sorted

luv'n'stuff

J

Hi,

Yeah, got me thinking for a while, but I have the drawing now, so if anyone gets stuck like I did, send me the pins and I can turn them down for you!!!

Glad I got "one" sorted, next one going to be attacked this week.. should be a bit quicker this time... now I have the tools and knowledge..

[Redbrick]

So the Plod insisted on decent handling from the factory!!! Wonder why it wasn't carried over to the normal cars? I can't see any downsides to solid wishbone bushes- just better cornering.

[wright_t5]

if I have plod fitted bushes, as far as I can see they are no different to standard ones, just the pin is different, when I do the drivers side this week I will post some pictures to show this, and show the problem it causes!!! of course all of you out there already know but I like to see pictuires.... they say soooo much.....

[v70torslanda]

Both kinds of bush are broadly similar. The civilian version has a hydraulic element, the idea being that it operates in a compliant manner but 'locks up' in reaction to a 'shock load'.

The 'police' bush is also a feature of factory built taxis, it is still a 'compliant' bush, i.e. one with voids in to provide directional resistance to loads but without the 'comfort' of the hydraulic operation.

As I posted up-thread my theory is longevity over comfort. Stiffness? No comparison between standard and poly.

J

[wright_t5]

Turns out I have different bushes both sides, the side I happen to sort was a standard arm with parallel pin, not standard by all accounts, hence extra work to get poly bush to fit...

Tonight I ripped the wheel off to find that actually the drivers side bush was in tact, and was a different spec to the other side, solid bush with a bigger diameter pin and thicker sleeve holding it all together, so the poly bush is not going to fit that without a lot of work I can't do because the sleeve needs boring out to receive the bush!!! and I have no doubt the pin would need to be turned down and stepped!!!

Nightmare...

[v70torslanda]

Call me tonight -> 23.00.

J

[ageinghipster]

Thanks all this is just the sort of thread I was looking for to sort out my clonking suspension.

So, just for the recap - who sells the complete kit and how much are they?

Cheers,

Ed