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    I think I can do the rear bar, but the front on the 850 looks more than a man with no garage and only axle stands and a trolley jack on his own could sensibly manage. So I have the bars - but...
    Can't seem to find anyone willing to fit front for less than about £250!!! So any ideas welcomed - SE London/North Kent area would be good.
    Those of you familiar with this will know it involves dropping rear of subframe, steering rack, etc etc.
    FYI eventually had a very pleasant garage do the job for me and they charged for 2 hours to do both front and rear - so I was happy with that as grovelling in the gravel is just not my scene these (rainy) days. So nice not to have to DIY sometimes.

    Followed Russ (RT) advice and did both.

    And what a difference...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatout Phil View Post
    FYI eventually had a very pleasant garage do the job for me and they charged for 2 hours to do both front and rear - so I was happy with that as grovelling in the gravel is just not my scene these (rainy) days. So nice not to have to DIY sometimes.

    Followed Russ (RT) advice and did both.

    And what a difference...
    C'mon Phil... this is your chance to be Jeremy clarkson telling us cornering is like stroking a swedish volleyball champion etc....

    give us some alliterations... paint a picture! what's it like to drive now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t5_monkey View Post
    C'mon Phil... this is your chance to be Jeremy clarkson telling us cornering is like stroking a swedish volleyball champion etc....

    give us some alliterations... paint a picture! what's it like to drive now ?
    I can only that it feels like it has a large road-magnet fitted to the floorpan, and has lost half a ton. Point and shoot - GTi. You don't steer round corners, you simply think round them. Just when you think it can't go any faster round a curve, it does.
    In a sprint it pours the power flat into the tarmac, just addictive.

    The best money I have ever spent on that car.

    Out of curiosity, the boost gauge goes about an eigth of an inch into the black - what boost pressure would you reckon that is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatout Phil View Post
    I can only that it feels like it has a large road-magnet fitted to the floorpan, and has lost half a ton. Point and shoot - GTi. You don't steer round corners, you simply think round them. Just when you think it can't go any faster round a curve, it does.
    In a sprint it pours the power flat into the tarmac, just addictive.

    The best money I have ever spent on that car.

    Out of curiosity, the boost gauge goes about an eigth of an inch into the black - what boost pressure would you reckon that is?
    The Rollbar upgrade is a brilliant one... best one for mine too.. although eventually you'll start thinking how you need stiffer bushes and new dampers...

    As for boost - I wouldn't have a clue, I don't even have a boost gauge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatout Phil View Post
    Out of curiosity, the boost gauge goes about an eigth of an inch into the black - what boost pressure would you reckon that is?
    The end of the white bar on a standard gauge is supposed to be 1 bar (14.7psi). So yours could be boosting to around 16-17psi
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    Quote Originally Posted by t5_monkey View Post
    The Rollbar upgrade is a brilliant one... best one for mine too.. although eventually you'll start thinking how you need stiffer bushes and new dampers...

    As for boost - I wouldn't have a clue, I don't even have a boost gauge
    Funny you should say that. I have reverted to original bushing on the front end because of Powerflex wishbone bushes which lasted about two thousand miles. Whilst they worked were very good.

    I am on the cusp of fitting Bilstein B4 on the front, but am wavering as to whether to do a Koni on each corner as I suspect the Nivos are now getting shagged (as seems to happen at about this age). But would require new rear top mounts and rear springs, so humming and harring. The appeal of Koni is that they can be set for everyday use and track use (which is not going to be happening that often) - that said, when I had adjustables on other cars, they tended to get left on one setting.

    But it is undoubtedly a fact of life that whenever we think we have arrived - we soon find we have not. Probably good unless you are a Buddhist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bomb192uk View Post
    The end of the white bar on a standard gauge is supposed to be 1 bar (14.7psi). So yours could be boosting to around 16-17psi
    Is that pushing the limits a bit or sustainable? I recall from my Battle Picture Weekly (anyone else remember that one) reading days, that pilots would push their Merlins 'through the gate' (using overboost) - but engines would need a rebuild if this were done for more than five miutes. DOn't fancy a rebuild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatout Phil View Post
    Is that pushing the limits a bit or sustainable? I recall from my Battle Picture Weekly (anyone else remember that one) reading days, that pilots would push their Merlins 'through the gate' (using overboost) - but engines would need a rebuild if this were done for more than five miutes. Don't fancy a rebuild.
    It should be ok as long as the boost is controlled in the lower rev range (below 3k) to prevent bending a rod. And as long as the fuelling is matched to the boost, but tis all depends on how the remap was set up in the first instance. Of course it may impact on the lifespan of the engine as it is working harder than it was originally designed programmed to.

    People on here have run more boost than that before (someone used to run 19psi, can't remember who) so your not on the limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatout Phil View Post
    Is that pushing the limits a bit or sustainable? I recall from my Battle Picture Weekly (anyone else remember that one) reading days, that pilots would push their Merlins 'through the gate' (using overboost) - but engines would need a rebuild if this were done for more than five miutes. DOn't fancy a rebuild.
    you'll be fine on that pressure... My late Grandad was head of non destructive testing at Rolls Royce Derby during the War, so he'd sign off on the Merlin engines. They had a lot of problems with low quality metals, old technology and time pressure - and in combat your better off with a shagged engine than a busted plane and dead pilot so they ran those engines ragged imagine it the equivalent of doing a trackday every day in your car...

    I'm no expert but apparently it's to do with boost spikes etc... that can cause problems so making sure your boost control solenoid and actuator are tip top is the main thing.

    They put a merlin engine into a Vickers tank with the 2 stage supercharger, so it was running 1500bhp - apparently it was very quick... until it blew the tracks off the wheels
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    I should add that whilst no car should ever feel too quick, the quickness that this one now has makes me feel as if I should start going to confession...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatout Phil View Post
    FYI eventually had a very pleasant garage do the job for me and they charged for 2 hours to do both front and rear - so I was happy with that as grovelling in the gravel is just not my scene these (rainy) days. So nice not to have to DIY sometimes.

    Followed Russ (RT) advice and did both.

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    Great news Phil i am glad you took the advise on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatout Phil View Post
    I should add that whilst no car should ever feel too quick, the quickness that this one now has makes me feel as if I should start going to confession...
    Do you walk around your car tutting and gently whispering...(in a Phil Mitchel voice)

    "your a bad little girl, oh yes you are... you know your bad you filthy little ****... yeah that's right daddy's gonna drive you today! drive you real good - just like you want... don't deny you love it you little minx!"

    before turning the ignition key and howling at the moon before you drive off the driveway ?

    If you don't .... you should

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    Quote Originally Posted by t5_monkey View Post
    Do you walk around your car tutting and gently whispering...(in a Phil Mitchel voice)

    "your a bad little girl, oh yes you are... you know your bad you filthy little ****... yeah that's right daddy's gonna drive you today! drive you real good - just like you want... don't deny you love it you little minx!"

    before turning the ignition key and howling at the moon before you drive off the driveway ?

    If you don't .... you should
    Funnily enough... I'll be in the News of the World next. Along with the other Phil and his trolley jack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t5_monkey View Post
    you'll be fine on that pressure... My late Grandad was head of non destructive testing at Rolls Royce Derby during the War, so he'd sign off on the Merlin engines. They had a lot of problems with low quality metals, old technology and time pressure - and in combat your better off with a shagged engine than a busted plane and dead pilot so they ran those engines ragged imagine it the equivalent of doing a trackday every day in your car...

    I'm no expert but apparently it's to do with boost spikes etc... that can cause problems so making sure your boost control solenoid and actuator are tip top is the main thing.

    They put a merlin engine into a Vickers tank with the 2 stage supercharger, so it was running 1500bhp - apparently it was very quick... until it blew the tracks off the wheels
    What an amazing job - I bet he had some great stories to tell!

    I really like these sort of anecdotes in posts.

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