v70r and v70 t5 what the difference?

[tonyhtb]

OK I am new to this forum so excuse my lack of knowledge. Whats the difference between a v70r and a v70 t5?

[phil_woods]

Right bodywork wise they have a different front bumper larger (not in all cases) 17" comet alloy wheels. Lower suspension too.
The v70r can be had in fwd or awd. Single exit exhaust for the t5 whilst some r's have a twin exit.
Interior has everything I think half leather and alacantara seats. Diff clocks too.

As far as the engine goes I'm not sure, I think I have read on here that some of the internals are different but I think they both run the same turbo.
And that is all I know, I am referring to the p1 v70's by the way.
Hope this helps

[mas]

Not as much as some T5 -R owners wood like to have you believe , thats why I just bought the best example of a T5 estate I could find at the time.
T5's are so moddable anyway that 11BHP soon disappears, then folk change their suspension brakes wheels etc and its all pretty much a much for me.

Of course 4WD is a major differnce , you can't ignore that one can you !

I found this ages ago when looking for T5 weight figures , you may find it usefull/interesting. And please no T5-R fury , I know its a classic and I do love the R but I love all T5'S

http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/pdf/broc...IMP-V70-T5.pdf

Regards

Mas

[Torch S70R]

V70R Manual P1 runs an 18T turbo Auto runs the 16T turbo whereas the T5 runs a 15G turbo iirc
manual has 10 bhp more than auto 250Bhp vs 240Bhp

the P2s run 300Bhp on the R's (oh and are all AWD) but i dont know too much about them

[phil_woods]

I thought v70 p1 auto's had a 16g turbo on em. Never knew that the r had an 18g either. I used to own an r and I swear my current t5 drives better!

[thebadger]

Pretty sure it's a 16T they used for V70R's (P1) and 15G on the T5's.

By the time they made the P2, it was a 16T turbo on the T5 & a KKK on the R's. The Engines were different only by bore, the T5 was 2319cc, the R was 2495cc iirc which was a T5 engine bored out by 200cc. This makes the R more prone to cylinder fails.

As above, the T5's are cheaper to buy, run, fix, fuel and insure.

I'd stick to the T5's, but if I had money to burn, I'd keep an R for mad days!

[p fandango]

engine/turbo spec

[phil_woods]

engine/turbo spec

Great link, thanks ped!

[IC]

Hi, just for general information, here's one of my old posts on the difference between a S70/V70r and a S70/V70T5:

V70R Specifications 1997/1998 The question of S70/V70R specifications comes up so often. I have indicated in some cases what items were also available on a T5 as an option. The R series were/are top of the range cars with almost all options as standard (in the case of the Classic range discussed here). The T5 is of course an engine option that has associated upgrades that come with the engine option (not a series like the R). The fwd T5 of this generation have front and rear shock absorber kits as standard. The part number for the front shock absorber kit is 9204 141 and the rear is 9204 142, many T5s have the 302 front discs. The T5 option has the Perfo 16" alloy as standard and a different gearbox to the 2.5 engined cars with the same manual ratios as the R.

What the '97/'98 R has as standard
An asterix beside a listing means that the item/s were R only. The four wheel drive aspects of the V70R AWD are not discussed here.

Comet 205 45 17" alloys in silver bright or anthracite (T5 has 205 50 16" Perfo alloys as standard)*
R leather and alcantara heated electric seats with driver memory (grey or beige)*
Rear safety nets that pull out of back seats (option on T5) Estate only.
Matching front and back leather door cards (available on CD spec T5)
R Aluminium dash trim(3 part) - option of wood with matching gear stick and steering wheel (not an option at the time, however run-out Classics in 2000 may have aluminium dash).
Climate control (available on CD spec T5)
Blue-backed instrument dials*
Information centre
Leather gear stick (if wood option trim matching auto wood gear stick)
Electric Glass Sunroof
Illuminated driver's vanity mirror
R logo mats*
Door kick plates (available on CD spec T5)
Pre-wiring for rear 6 CD changer* (option on T5)
SC 900 RDS Stereo 3 disc cartridge CD/radio (option on T5)
50 watt stereo amplifier (option on T5)
Pull-out cups holders in central armrest (available on CD spec T5)
limited slip diff*
Traction Control - TRACS
Lowered R suspension (lowered sports suspension was available as an option on the T5)
Stronger anti-roll bars
Rear Nivomat suspension (keeps ride height consistent when carrying loads)
Folding down rear bumper protector:estate only.

Manual has 18T turbo/automatic has 16T turbo (T5 has 16T)
R front bumper (different lip spoiler to standard bumper) with different design plastic grilles*
R leather and alcantara driver's wheel (alcantara is a synthetic material)*
Rear pull out material bumper protector (estate) (option on T5)
Headlight wash/wipe (available on CD spec T5)
Colours:
Black Stone 019
Nautic Blue (pearl) 417
Silver Metallic 426
Garnet Red (metallic) 428
Saffron (pearl) 435

The manual is 250 bhp and the automatic 240 bhp. (The manual '97/'98 T5 is 240bhp)

*The 18T of the manual R will give better performance than the 16T of the automatic.
*The manual Rs have a better official 0-60 time and a slightly higher top speed than the automatic.
*The manual T5 is faster than the automatic R (just a few tenths of a second!).
*The AWD cars are heavier and slower than the front wheel drive cars, especially in automatic.

[phil_woods]

Hi, just for general information, here's one of my old posts on the difference between a S70/V70r and a S70/V70T5:

V70R Specifications 1997/1998 The question of S70/V70R specifications comes up so often. I have indicated in some cases what items were also available on a T5 as an option. The R series were/are top of the range cars with almost all options as standard (in the case of the Classic range discussed here). The T5 is of course an engine option that has associated upgrades that come with the engine option (not a series like the R). The fwd T5 of this generation have front and rear shock absorber kits as standard. The part number for the front shock absorber kit is 9204 141 and the rear is 9204 142, many T5s have the 302 front discs. The T5 option has the Perfo 16" alloy as standard and a different gearbox to the 2.5 engined cars with the same manual ratios as the R.

What the '97/'98 R has as standard
An asterix beside a listing means that the item/s were R only. The four wheel drive aspects of the V70R AWD are not discussed here.

Comet 205 45 17" alloys in silver bright or anthracite (T5 has 205 50 16" Perfo alloys as standard)*
R leather and alcantara heated electric seats with driver memory (grey or beige)*
Rear safety nets that pull out of back seats (option on T5) Estate only.
Matching front and back leather door cards (available on CD spec T5)
R Aluminium dash trim(3 part) - option of wood with matching gear stick and steering wheel (not an option at the time, however run-out Classics in 2000 may have aluminium dash).
Climate control (available on CD spec T5)
Blue-backed instrument dials*
Information centre
Leather gear stick (if wood option trim matching auto wood gear stick)
Electric Glass Sunroof
Illuminated driver's vanity mirror
R logo mats*
Door kick plates (available on CD spec T5)
Pre-wiring for rear 6 CD changer* (option on T5)
SC 900 RDS Stereo 3 disc cartridge CD/radio (option on T5)
50 watt stereo amplifier (option on T5)
Pull-out cups holders in central armrest (available on CD spec T5)
limited slip diff*
Traction Control - TRACS
Lowered R suspension (lowered sports suspension was available as an option on the T5)
Stronger anti-roll bars
Rear Nivomat suspension (keeps ride height consistent when carrying loads)
Folding down rear bumper protector:estate only.

Manual has 18T turbo/automatic has 16T turbo (T5 has 16T)
R front bumper (different lip spoiler to standard bumper) with different design plastic grilles*
R leather and alcantara driver's wheel (alcantara is a synthetic material)*
Rear pull out material bumper protector (estate) (option on T5)
Headlight wash/wipe (available on CD spec T5)
Colours:
Black Stone 019
Nautic Blue (pearl) 417
Silver Metallic 426
Garnet Red (metallic) 428
Saffron (pearl) 435

The manual is 250 bhp and the automatic 240 bhp. (The manual '97/'98 T5 is 240bhp)

*The 18T of the manual R will give better performance than the 16T of the automatic.
*The manual Rs have a better official 0-60 time and a slightly higher top speed than the automatic.
*The manual T5 is faster than the automatic R (just a few tenths of a second!).
*The AWD cars are heavier and slower than the front wheel drive cars, especially in automatic.

excellent info, its only reading this that I remember the things on my R which I havent got on my t5. Still think that my current car is faster than what my R was but maybe I just had a dog. Thanks for the info anyway

[IC]

excellent info, its only reading this that I remember the things on my R which I havent got on my t5. Still think that my current car is faster than what my R was but maybe I just had a dog. Thanks for the info anyway

Hi no problem!